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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Why do you keep using SOLELY the term "attack"? She implied safety when she mentioned that they needed to "protect".

    No... you are using a term that is more dramatic than we are using in an attempt to belittle and refute our point, that is all.
    What kind of "danger" are they in then? If their safety is compromised, then they are in some sort of danger. Not that hard to gather from that wording.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaWindu View Post
    Actually I am because most women aren't bigots.
    Most women are not comfortable having strange men present when they are dressing and undressing; even if the men in question are not obvious about being creepy perverts.


    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaWindu View Post
    Also there was no "creepy perverted man" in the locker room.
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    I think it is quite obvious enough that he is all three.


    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaWindu View Post
    Please provide proof the "vast majority of women" are uncomfortable…
    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. You're the one claiming that women, in general, are OK with having strange men watch them undress. It seems that the heavy burden is on you is to support such a bizarre claim, and not on me to support what everyone knows and accepts as common sense and common decency.


    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaWindu View Post
    …nor as anybody called them bigots for being uncomfortable, try not to misrepresent what was said and post lies please.
    You have repeatedly used that word, exactly, to describe women who are not comfortable with having a strange, creepy man present where they are undressing.

    In fact, you did so again, after I originally posted this, describing such an objection to a man being present where a woman is undressing, as an “irrational fear based on bigotry”.

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    Yes that is correct, her irrational fear based on bigotry.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Where did I claim that the man was "a danger"? See... you are making these assumptions. She doesn't feel safe. I would not feel safe about having boys in my daughter's locker rooms either... that is not safe. Safe has many meanings to it but yo useem to think that it only means that we are saying that he will attack her. That is stupid thining... you are calling, or at the very least insinuating, that I am hateful and a bigot? That conclusion, based off of everything that I have said in this thread, is comical. I am anything but hateful and bigoted but your intellectual capacity is certainly apparent and it is woefully lacking...



    Not wanting a woman in the men's locker rooms is obnoxious?

    Wanting to chill out and have some cave time is obnoxious?

    Not wanting a boy in the locker room with my girl's is obnoxious?

    Challenging Political Correctness MORONS that insist that you agree with them or you are a hate filled bigot is obnoxious?



    Lady... that is some insipid and odious tripe you are dishin' there...
    I didn't say you claimed he was dangerous so yes you are making stuff up. What I did say is that it is obvious you don't care about transgender people. ALso I still have never called you a hateful bigot, but you are free to keep repeating try to make a point on it even though it never happened. SO yes your argument is woefully lacking intellectually since you made it up. hahahaha

    Yes I already know that stuff you are making up is insipid and odious tripe. Feel free to discuss what I really said though.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Planet Fitness is a private company, they can do what they want. If they want to allow men in the locker room that's fine, and they can revoke the lady's membership if they want to as well.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It is her irrational fear that makes her feel unsafe, not the transgendered person in the locker room or even a man in the locker room.
    Yes that is correct, her irrational fear based on bigotry.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Any woman who can think without allowing their own stupid biases to make them have an irrational fear of men or even "large" men in women's clothing. Those who molest teens and children don't do so by "identifying" as a the opposite sex or even gay. Heck, the only children that we see getting molested now in locker rooms is happening when completely straight, "normal" married guys do it to the members of the teams they are coaching.
    You don't get it, do you? For the sake of my point...never mind the freaky character that led to the woman complaining. Under a completely gender identity neutral policy, some creepy male pedophile could walk into a woman's locker room and when confronted, simply state: "I feel like a woman today". Even if he did not rape or otherwise molest, he could still leer and make normal women or children feel uncomfortable. I hate to be the one to break it to you however "anything goes" just for the sake of modern leftwing political correctness is never going to catch on in the real world. This is not just about the perverted cross dresser the woman complained about. My prediction is that if Planet fitness continues their "gender identity neutral" policy, it will hurt them in the long run.

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    What kind of "danger" are they in then? If their safety is compromised, then they are in some sort of danger. Not that hard to gather from that wording.
    OK then... danger in the way that it is being applied here is only being used to imply attack or bodily threat... none of the ones I am mentioning are even being listened to.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Most women are not comfortable having strange men present when they are dressing and undressing; even if the men in question are not obvious about being creepy perverts.




    What do you call this, then?
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    What is it that you deny? That he is…
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    • Perverted?
    • A man?

    I think it is quite obvious enough that he is all three.




    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. You're the one claiming that women, in general, are OK with having strange men watch them undress. It seems that the heavy burden is on you is to support such a bizarre claim, and not on me to support what everyone knows and accepts as common sense and common decency.




    You have repeatedly used that word, exactly, to describe women who are not comfortable with having a strange, creepy man present where they are undressing.
    So after your post above you still can't shows there was a strange creepy man in the locker room or that the vast majority of women are against transgenders being in the locker room or that I ever used that word bigot to describe someone being uncomfortable? Should I ask you again or will you just dodge it again?
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    OK then... danger in the way that it is being applied here is only being used to imply attack or bodily threat... none of the ones I am mentioning are even being listened to.
    No, it isn't. There is no "danger" of any kind to the woman for a "man" or transgendered woman being there. A woman can look at her, stare at her, cat call her, bother her, leer at her, or anything else a "man" or transgendered woman "might" do.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    I don't see how a woman uncomfortable with a man in the locker room is bigoted though... Seems like a rational complaint for a woman to not want a man in the locker room changing with women.
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