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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Actually, if you read the article again, you'll see that the only evidence that there were other complaints comes from the woman who complained. No employee of PF's told the journalist that others had complained. It was the woman who complained who said a PF employee told her that others had complained

    IOW, hearsay.
    And if you read the article the only evidence that other people complained about her was from PF... No other members told the journalist that they had complained about her... gee, that was easy.


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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Good since it didnt happen.........
    But whats the point then
    The point was that PF wasn't doing anyone any favors in how they chose to implement this policy of theirs. The fact that they don't tell people about it up front is asinine. They can't really expect that if a very masculine, obviously male person walks into the women's locker room, that the current inhabitants will simply look to the "no judgment zone" words painted on the wall, conclude that the guy must be a trans woman, and simply go about their business. That's ridiculous. The much more likely scenario is that the trans person is going to startle/scare most women, and in return be the constant subject of "what the hell are you doing in here" stares or even verbal challenges. Whether or not you're a trans person, the manner in which they've implemented this policy just sucks.

    Of course, simply posting a sign and doing a reasonable job of making members aware of the policy would go a long way toward reducing confusion and tension, but they didn't make this common sense move because they knew they'd lose customers.

    They can't be happy about all of this media attention. I wonder if that's why they offered the woman that complained free membership and personal training for a year after "revoking" her membership?
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    And if you read the article the only evidence that other people complained about her was from PF... No other members told the journalist that they had complained about her... gee, that was easy.
    Not the same

    She had an interest it making it appear that she was not the only one complaining. PF had no reason to make it up. If no one complained about her, then they would have no knowledge that she was complaining about the policy to others and therefor, no reason to revoke her membership.



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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Not the same

    She had an interest it making it appear that she was not the only one complaining. PF had no reason to make it up. If no one complained about her, then they would have no knowledge that she was complaining about the policy to others and therefor, no reason to revoke her membership.
    Sure they had a reason... they don't want people challenging their policy so they claim that people complained about her so that they could revoke her membership.

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Sure they had a reason... they don't want people challenging their policy so they claim that people complained about her so that they could revoke her membership.
    Why would they want to revoke her membership if she didn't complain?

    Revoking her membership doesn't stop her from complaining, as the story proves.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Why would they want to revoke her membership if she didn't complain?

    Revoking her membership doesn't stop her from complaining, as the story proves.
    They wouldn't... they revoked it because she did complain. I am not saying they were bright for revoking it either.

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    If the person has undergone sex reassignment surgery ("sex change operation") then her complaint wasn't valid. If not, it was - UNLESS the club made it publicly clear that their locker rooms were unisex.

    Apparently she did not know she had joined a unisex nudist gym.
    Sex reassignment surgery is not a requirement to use their locker rooms. It isn't even a requirement in many states to change your legal sex. There is no law that says they have to make them unisex to account for transgendered people.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    1.)The point was that PF wasn't doing anyone any favors in how they chose to implement this policy of theirs.
    2.) The fact that they don't tell people about it up front is asinine. They can't really expect that if a very masculine, obviously male person walks into the women's locker room, that the current inhabitants will simply look to the "no judgment zone" words painted on the wall, conclude that the guy must be a trans woman, and simply go about their business.
    3.)That's ridiculous.
    4.) The much more likely scenario is that the trans person is going to startle/scare most women, and in return be the constant subject of "what the hell are you doing in here" stares or even verbal challenges. Whether or not you're a trans person, the manner in which they've implemented this policy just sucks.

    5.) Of course, simply posting a sign and doing a reasonable job of making members aware of the policy would go a long way toward reducing confusion and tension, but they didn't make this common sense move because they knew they'd lose customers.
    6.)They can't be happy about all of this media attention. I wonder if that's why they offered the woman that complained free membership and personal training for a year after "revoking" her membership?
    1.) according to who? Obviously they disagree 100%
    2.) well they didn't do that so I guess everything is good. They had ZERO issues with initial complaints or concerns
    3.) that would be ridiculous but it didn't happen.
    4.) maybe but I READ policies when I pay money and join things, Maybe its in everybody's handbook or they all had access to it and this lady ignored it.
    But personally I would have no issue if they choose to do something extra but at the same time I dont think its needed either.
    5.) well thats simply nothing more than an assumption and IMO a very illogical one lol What common sense actually tells us is that the people that are bothered by this equality policy arent going to be happy no matter what and you lose those types of customers no matter what. THose types of people werent going to accept it simply cause a sign was posted thier issue is quite different.
    6.) again more speculation, they gotten praise from HRC and other groups already so I see no issue with it.

    All the lady had to do is accept the policy, that wasnt good enough for her, going by her quotes im "guessing" a sign wouldnt have made her happy because it was about HER and how SHE FELT and SHE doesnt want those people in HER locker room because SHE doesnt FEEL safe. Has she changed her mind?

    But all that aside, your previous comment really still had no point that changes anything of the reality of the situation
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    They wouldn't... they revoked it because she did complain. I am not saying they were bright for revoking it either.
    THey revoked it because she broke the rules
    her intial complaint didn't get her membership revoked or her complaint to corporate, it was her continued complaints and approaching other members and causing them to complain about her, and even then they didn't revoke her membership. They simply asked her to stop because people were upset about what she was doing, she refused and then they revoked her membership.

    Not claiming your claimed otherwise i just think that part is important. This lady has nobody to blame but herself.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    THey revoked it because she broke the rules
    her intial complaint didn't get her membership revoked or her complaint to corporate, it was her continued complaints and approaching other members and causing them to complain about her, and even then they didn't revoke her membership.
    You have evidence other members were complaining about her? lol please provide that now because there is none.

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    They simply asked her to stop because people were upset about what she was doing, she refused and then they revoked her membership.
    Wait, what's this? Another news report from the "Land of Make-Believe"?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Not claiming your claimed otherwise i just think that part is important. This lady has nobody to blame but herself.
    Even more important, when you try to make these claims in the future, be sure you preface them with "what I wish happened, because I have ZERO evidence to support it, is..."

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