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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    1.)Effectively "if you look male, I don't want to see you in the same changing room as myself".
    2.)That said, I could see it being an issue if a person who both physically appears as male and mentally identifies as male pretended to mentally identify as female specifically so he could go into the women's locker rooms...for whatever purpose he might have...
    3.) I mean...there's no way to test that...

    But this does bring to mind an interview I listened to recently, of someone who was mentally male OR female (never both at the same time), and alternated between the two randomly.
    1.) that is the case for some actual biological females. When i was little like 11 I had a paper route and at the paper company when i picked up my papers the lady working the window had a very obvious beard
    I dont want a 300lb naked man next to me in the mens locker room either doesnt me i get to make that the policy, you know what i mean. Not saying you are claiming that just saying
    2.) yes IF than that person would be a criminal and should be prosecuted. If could also be an issue IF a lot of things happened
    3.) not necessarily true. Typically they are diagnosed and do everything as a woman, not just gym workouts lol
    and if any place had that simply of a policy just going by word of mouth thats thier choice, but if somethign would happen and they dont go further then i agree it could be an issue but thats not the case here
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It isn't "transgendered are dangerous" it is a "man in a woman's locker room is not safe) and safe means many levels including women's feelings of safety.

    She is already painting with a few professional painters and looks to be getting ready to start selling some pictures so she really isn't "playing around".

    she started and is very good and picked it up so fast it is pretty amazing... I will see if I can send you some but the picture files are too big and I don't know how to shrink them.
    Their feelings on whether they are safe are their own issue, not those who are not doing anything different than anyone else would be doing in a locker room. It is reasonable for them to feel unsafe if anyone, male or female, threatens them in some way. It is really not reasonable for a woman to feel unsafe just because there is a transgender woman or even a man in the locker room with them, especially when the majority of such places have many people in a locker room at a time. That is their own paranoia that is the problem.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) that is the case for some actual biological females. When i was little like 11 I had a paper route and at the paper company when i picked up my papers the lady working the window had a very obvious beard
    I dont want a 300lb naked man next to me in the mens locker room either doesnt me i get to make that the policy, you know what i mean. Not saying you are claiming that just saying
    2.) yes IF than that person would be a criminal and should be prosecuted. If could also be an issue IF a lot of things happened
    3.) not necessarily true. Typically they are diagnosed and do everything as a woman, not just gym workouts lol
    and if any place had that simply of a policy just going by word of mouth thats thier choice, but if somethign would happen and they dont go further then i agree it could be an issue but thats not the case here
    Quite frankly, I sometimes think that we either need to have individual changing rooms/showers, everywhere (expensive).

    OR stop giving so many ****s about having to look at naked people, however they appear physically.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Quite frankly, I sometimes think that we either need to have individual changing rooms/showers, everywhere (expensive).

    OR stop giving so many ****s about having to look at naked people, however they appear physically.
    i dont disagree with hat, and that's one of the reason this lady was given the boot.
    she had the option of using the private stalls in the locker room and that wasn't good enough
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    So, do those who object to a transgender woman or man being in the locker room of the gender they identify with also object to children of the opposite gender accompanying their parents into the locker rooms too? How old would you cut them off? What about those with disabilities?
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You would have to prove the facility didn't take action for legitimate complaints.
    There need not be any complaints. The idea is to have a reasonable policy in place to avoid the situation altogether.

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    There need not be any complaints. The idea is to have a reasonable policy in place to avoid the situation altogether.
    There is a reasonable policy in place, people can use the facilities they most identify as. If they do something that violates some actual rule, which would include harassment of some sort, then that can be complained about as a legitimate problem, and they can be addressed, including having their membership revoked or being asked to leave and not return (if a guest).
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) you mean ONE woman.
    how many guys do you think would complain that he is in the mens locker room dressed as a man and theres a VERY solid chance he likes looking at men in a sexual way

    in fact since you want to talk about danger levels
    who do you think is safer
    A.) the women in the ladies locker room with the transgender man dressed as a woman pre or post opwho is attracted to men
    B.) the transgender man attracted to men dressed as a woman pre or post op in the men in the mens locker room

    2.) biologically yes he is also transgender and may not even have a penis and is most likely attracted to men. A gay, black, chrisitina man is also a man but they are also gay, black christian etc etc
    the topic is about transgender
    3.) transgender men? id like to see that statistic
    also if we are going off of statistic to equate EXTRA meanings should we not have male coaches, doctors teachers etc that will be dealing with girls? I mean thats what I coach, i coach girls, maybe i shouldnt be allowed cause you know, stats say men are more likely sexual predators. come on Bodi you are better than that
    4.) so a transgender man that wants to go into the girls locker room is a pervert? based on what?
    5.) and you are free to argue that as they would be free to deny you membership
    6.) they arent in danger nor need protecting in this case so im good
    thier feelings i still dont care about when they are nonsensical and bigoted

    if you can show me the increased danger youll have something
    1. It isn't all about physical safety... you are making it that way.
    2. The topic is about safety
    3. I didn't say transgendered men... that is your thing. I am talking about people feeling safe. There are rules in society for valid reasons...
    4. Wow, talk about an invalid tangent.
    5. Not bigoted in the slightest. That is ignorant and you know it. Not wanting a man in the woman's locker room is not bigoted and it is insulting that people claim that it is ...

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    There is a reasonable policy in place, people can use the facilities they most identify as. If they do something that violates some actual rule, which would include harassment of some sort, then that can be complained about as a legitimate problem, and they can be addressed, including having their membership revoked or being asked to leave and not return (if a guest).
    As long as they make that very clear from the get go to potential clients... othewise they should have to give a full refund of everything spent and pay a fine.

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    So, do those who object to a transgender woman or man being in the locker room of the gender they identify with also object to children of the opposite gender accompanying their parents into the locker rooms too? How old would you cut them off? What about those with disabilities?
    There are generally disabled bathrooms and children should be able to accompany parents depending on circumstance. To use the toilette probably 5 or younger... kindergarten. To be cared for by a single parent in a mall rather than be left alone out by the store probably older.

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