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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    If a sexual predator, who now understands PF will allow him to use a woman's locker room so long as he says "I'm self-identifying as a woman", turns the PF woman's locker room into his playground, then they would be liable for creating the environment.
    Any sexual predator could simply dress as a woman now and go to any locker room they wanted if they were that dedicated. But in reality, a sexual predator is generally going to be smart enough to know how big a risk that is or get caught quicker than they could actually do anything. These aren't like empty locker rooms that multiple people don't use.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Why even bother to post. We all know what you're going to say. Fact is their policy about speaking badly about their policies to other members is a no-go. They just don't have the legal authority to make said policy. But all she had to do was to inform others of the policy and they saw the problem for themselves. They did indeed wish to silence her, and they did. It's all there in the OP which has provided all the facts. Facts you seemingly want to ignore.

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This isn't public nudity. The laws for public nudity are not relative to which gender of person might see you naked.
    You were just railing about our societal attitudes regarding nudity, calling them "archaic notions". Have you forgotten that already? And yes, part of those societal rules, rolled into law, it's okay for others of the same sex to see you naked in the locker room. NOT okay for different sex. But hey, you've lived in this society your whole life, right? You should know this (even if you object to it).

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And that person could get reported for their behavior, if it were truly the behavior and not just their being there that was the cause of the complaint.
    And if it happens a few times, it's certainly reasonable to say that the facility is not maintaining a safe environment.

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    If they continue in this direction, they will become a club exclusive to people who are confused about what sex they are.
    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Or those who don't care.
    OK, I'll grant that and include those who don't care what sex they are. Together, that's what, 1/5 of 1% of the population? Good luck making a profit on such a tiny clientele, while alienating most of the remaining 99.8%.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    The most surprising thing to me is that this corporation's lawyers would have advised them that there is no problem in doing this. There is a principle of tort law which says, roughly, that if almost everyone in your industry is doing something in a certain way, so that customers have come to expect it as the norm, you will be liable if you do that thing in a different way and someone is caught unaware and harmed as a result.

    I remember an old case where a small motel owner, following a grandfather clause in the law, had not installed safety glass shower doors in his rooms. That made him the odd man out, because almost every motel in the state, old and new alike, had done that. When a guest slipped in the shower, felt through the glass door, and was badly cut up, the guest sued him--and he lost. The reasoning was that motel guests by that time had reasonably come to expect that shower doors would not be made of ordinary glass, and therefore would not be unusually careful around them.

    This reasoning also applied in the McDonald's hot coffee case of twenty-odd years ago. Apparently hoping to gain an advantage over its competitors, McDonald's had begun serving its coffee at 190 degrees instead of the standard 170 degrees they served it at. A very old and somewhat senile woman who was unaware of this spilled the coffee she had bought at a McDonald's in her lap in the car, badly burning herself. A jury found McDonald's was negligent and awarded the woman punitive damages.

    It seems to me that this gym is asking to get sued--successfully--by letting men use the locker rooms designated for women without warning their women customers.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Any sexual predator could simply dress as a woman now and go to any locker room they wanted if they were that dedicated. But in reality, a sexual predator is generally going to be smart enough to know how big a risk that is or get caught quicker than they could actually do anything. These aren't like empty locker rooms that multiple people don't use.
    If there wasn't an open policy, it would be handled quickly(i.e. one complaint, call cops). However, because its an open policy, complainants are told to "use the locker room at a later time" or to use another gym. Remember, if you feel threatened that a "man" is in there with you, you are a bigot.

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    And if it happens a few times, it's certainly reasonable to say that the facility is not maintaining a safe environment.
    IN the imaginary hypothetical that the policy is truly wide open and you can:

    just claim anythign as many times as you want when you feel like it without any other checks and balances
    then criminals start deceiving the facility and lying about being transgender and attacking women and it happens multiple times
    and then no other measures are taken, security wise, policy wise, notification wise etc

    THEN there might be a case and the best bet would be to still go after after in general and the policy secondary because a good lawyer will pass the buck to the criminals if the suit solely attacks the policy.

    as it stands right now, theres no case and no evidence of any kind that the facility is not maintaining a safe environment.
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