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Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:463:992]

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Yes, Planet Fitness is free to be idiotic in the extreme, and the woman is right to be upset about it. So you think this moronic policy is going to be good for business?

It doesn't matter. It is still their policy. There are other places that have similar policies, and even less restrictive policies. (I know of at least one store who has the policy that anyone can use either changing room or restroom no matter what gender they identify with. A man who identifies as a man can still go into the ladies restroom or the women's fitting room, just as a woman can go in the men's restroom or the men's fitting room.)
 
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It doesn't matter. It is still their policy. There are other places that have similar policies, and even less restrictive policies. (I know of at least one store who has the policy that anyone can use either changing room or restroom no matter what gender they identify with. A man who identifies as a man can still go into the ladies restroom or the women's fitting room, just as a woman can go in the men's restroom or the men's fitting room.)

Who allows that?
 
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PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

No. She is being called a "bigot" because of her reaction to her own discomfort about the transgendered woman man being in the locker room.

Fixed it for you. And no, for a woman to be uncomfortable with a strange man being present where she is undressing is not bigoted; it's entirely normal and proper; very much unlike the presence of a man in that setting.

It's funny that the side that defends this outrageous and inexcusable disregard for the safety and well-being of women is the same side that falsely accuses its opposition of waging a “war on women”. If there is a war on women going on in our society, this is it; or at least it is a significant part of it.
 
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Fixed it for you. And no, for a woman to be uncomfortable with a strange man being present where she is undressing is not bigoted; it's entirely normal and proper; very much unlike the presence of a man in that setting.

It's funny that the side that defends this outrageous and inexcusable disregard for the safety and well-being of women is the same side that falsely accuses its opposition of waging a “war on women”. If there is a war on women going on in our society, this is it; or at least it is a significant part of it.

The reaction to the discomfort is where she becomes bigoted, not the discomfort itself.

There is nothing about a transgendered woman or even a man being in a woman's dressing room that automatically disregards safety or well being of any woman. That is reality. Believing that a man or transgendered woman being in there automatically puts women in some sort of danger is sexist. It assumes that men are a danger to women just by seeing them naked. Most men can control themselves. There is no evidence that transgendered women are more likely to attack in any way cisgender women than other cisgender women are.
 
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The reaction to the discomfort is where she becomes bigoted, not the discomfort itself.

There is nothing about a transgendered woman or even a man being in a woman's dressing room that automatically disregards safety or well being of any woman. That is reality. Believing that a man or transgendered woman being in there automatically puts women in some sort of danger is sexist. It assumes that men are a danger to women just by seeing them naked. Most men can control themselves. There is no evidence that transgendered women are more likely to attack in any way cisgender women than other cisgender women are.

Really, you're just falling into that abyss of wrong-wing excuse, where you defend the indefensible by stating that the opposition must be based on bigotry, or in this case, sexism. That pathetic wrong-wing excuse is wearing very thin, these days.

It is just plain common sense, and common decency, that men do not belong in women's dressing rooms. Period. Not even men who pretend to be women, and not even men who are so desperate that they have their genitalia subjected to surgical mutilation for the sake of that pretense.

You have no valid argument to make against what is so obviously true, that you have nothing left but to accuse those who stand for decency of being bigots. It isn't going to work. Nobody is falling for that crap any more.
 
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Really, you're just falling into that abyss of wrong-wing excuse, where you defend the indefensible by stating that the opposition must be based on bigotry, or in this case, sexism. That pathetic wrong-wing excuse is wearing very thin, these days.

It is just plain common sense, and common decency, that men do not belong in women's dressing rooms. Period. Not even men who pretend to be women, and not even men who are so desperate that they have their genitalia subjected to surgical mutilation for the sake of that pretense.

You have no valid argument to make against what is so obviously true, that you have nothing left but to accuse those who stand for decency of being bigots. It isn't going to work. Nobody is falling for that crap any more.

No, it is not "common sense" because common sense tells us that people don't normally get completely undressed in locker rooms in front of everyone. But even more it tells us that the body is just a body. It is only sexual if someone makes it sexual, usually the person complaining that someone might see them or the other person "exposing" themself is doing something sexual is the only one making it sexual.
 
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Who allows that?

I'd be much more concerned with a place like Macy's putting in the dressing room doors backwards so that "Loss Prevention" can observe the customers changing to ensure they are not shoplifting (at least in Florida, and it is legal).

Macy's Violates Privacy With Peek-A-Boo Dressing Rooms (VIDEO)

But they also do allow people to use the fitting rooms of their choice.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/07/macys-employee-fired-transgender_n_1133831.html
 
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Ross Dress for Less stores. As well as Target (at least many Targets) have gone to unisex changing rooms.

Concerns over unisex changing rooms | News - Home

Other stores that allow it:

H&M
Urban Outfitters
American Apparel
Forever 21
Neiman Marcus makes their dressing rooms department specific, not gender specific
Barney's
Bloomingdale's
Saks

Ah yes, another asinine policy that normal people are rightfully upset about. Great example. :roll:

Rose Marie Preddy told Channel 4 when she went to check on her daughter, Sarah, in the changing area of Target, she found a man in the area who was also using the dressing room.

Preddy said the worker at the store told her that the changing area had recently become unisex in order to accommodate both genders.

"That was so unacceptable, completely blindsided by it," said Preddy.

"They're obviously not looking for our business. They're looking for someone else's business, but it's obviously not going to be teenage girls and the moms," said Preddy.

I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

Gabriel Wood accused of peeping at teen in Target dressing room | ksdk.com

Police say a man convicted of taking pictures of girls in women's dressing rooms is allegedly at it again.

The victim's mother, who wants to remain anonymous, says her 14-year-old daughter was in the dressing room of the Target in Arnold when she noticed someone taking pictures of her daughter while she was trying on bathing suits.

The teen is seeing a counselor to help cope.

What bigots that mom and her teenage daughter are!




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PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

What bigots that mom and her teenage daughter are!

I guess it's bigoted, now, to think that there's anything wrong with a strange man watching, or even photographing, a teenage girl who is undressed, without her knowledge or consent. What backward, bigoted prudes we must be to pass judgement on such a man.
 
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Planet Fitness can also solve this controversy by creating a third locker room for transvestites...

transvestites?
transgender and transvestite are not the same thing. Typically (not always) transvestites typical just like dressing as the opposite sex, they like it, it turns them on etc. but they have no issues with thier own born sex or sexual orientation.Transgender is not that
 
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I love the fear, hate and bigotry displayed in this thread. OH NO THERES TRANSGENDERS BY ME ITS DANGEROUS AND UNSAFE!!!! lol

Reminds me of the arguments about not allowing blacks in dressing rooms/showers etc You know, cause some people are "uncomfortable" and it's a "safety issue":lamo
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Ah yes, another asinine policy that normal people are rightfully upset about. Great example. :roll:

I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

Gabriel Wood accused of peeping at teen in Target dressing room | ksdk.com

What bigots that mom and her teenage daughter are!

:roll:

And the guy wasn't transgender and a woman could just as easily do the same thing. The real solution? Don't make open stalls where those people can be seen while inside actually changing.
 
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So Im so curious

do people actually think this lady was NOT given doable solutions?
after her initial complaint/concern which i understand and she was informed of the equality and no judgment policy and told she can use private stalls or not go in there at the same times was that not enough?

since we can't go back in time and inform her PF doesnt discriminate, once she came to the front desk and was made aware of thier policies what should PF have done?

*CRICKETS*
Nobody has answered this still, what should PF have done after the lady complained and then they informed her of her equality policy?
 
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These qoutes of hers really does sum up this lady perfectly:

“This is about me and how I felt unsafe. I should feel safe in there.”

"I don’t care what you are; I don’t care if you’re gay, lesbian, transgender or transvestite. I am uncomfortable with you as a male in my locker room, in my restroom.”





Are you suggesting she's selfish?
 
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yep thats what PF did, gave her the boot an ignored her bigoted selfish hypocritical requests :D



I am SOOO going to find out where all the victoria secret models work out and join up Identifying as a woman. **** yeah!
 
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Are you suggesting she's selfish?
lol
Yes its obvious that is ONE of her issues
she think all that matters is herself and she thinks its her locker room and she should get to make the rules. PF makes the rules and it thier locker room :shrug:
 
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transvestites?
transgender and transvestite are not the same thing. Typically (not always) transvestites typical just like dressing as the opposite sex, they like it, it turns them on etc. but they have no issues with thier own born sex or sexual orientation.Transgender is not that
Oh, OK. Well in that case PF should put up 4 locker rooms in their branches: one for men, women, transvestites and transgenders. Happy now? :2wave:
 
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I am SOOO going to find out where all the victoria secret models work out and join up Identifying as a woman. **** yeah!

Pretty sure they have personal, private trainers.
 
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I am SOOO going to find out where all the victoria secret models work out and join up Identifying as a woman. **** yeah!

Go for it, let us know how it turns out :shrug:
 
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Oh, OK. Well in that case PF should put up 4 locker rooms in their branches: one for men, women, transvestites and transgenders. Happy now? :2wave:

am I happy? this isnt about me but transvestites dont need locker rooms.
and the reality is nor do transgenders they already have them with the sex they feel they are but if you wanted to try and do things your way you would still need 4 locker rooms, you cant group all the transgenders together, you know since it will be a mix of woman and males like some said that would be a safety issue!! :scared:
 
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Are you suggesting i will be met with "bigotry"?

????lol what?
I'm flat out saying, if thats what you want to do thats your choice and to please let us know how it works out, should be an entertaining story
 
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am I happy? this isnt about me but transvestites dont need locker rooms.
and the reality is nor do transgenders they already have them with the sex they feel they are but if you wanted to try and do things your way you would still need 4 locker rooms, you cant group all the transgenders together, you know since it will be a mix of woman and males like some said that would be a safety issue!! :scared:



i'll be blunt.

Society we live in separates the sexes, not the "gender".

transgenderism, is a disorder and a delusion. Others should not have to suffer to accommodate those suffering from a mental issue.

Personally if an adult is happier modifying themselves to mimic the other gender, all the power to them. I also support the businesses rights to deal with that as they wish.

But neither the "gym" or the lady, are in the wrong here imo. And if the "gym" had told the transdgendered that they COULDN'T use that locker room, they would be within thier rights.
 
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????lol what?
I'm flat out saying, if thats what you want to do thats your choice and to please let us know how it works out, should be an entertaining story



Do they still sell google glass? I have an idea! ;)
 
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