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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:4...

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:4...

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    What I truly dont understand is why you dont extend this logic to gay wedding cakes.


    "Gay wedding cakes"?

    Does that mean a cake that lisps?
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:4...

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    What I truly dont understand is why you dont extend this logic to gay wedding cakes.
    Because these people are not being refused service. If a gay customer came into a bakery requesting a rainbow cake for their wedding and the baker refused because they would refuse such an order for anyone, then I'd say the same to the gay customer. The reasoning behind the refusal is what matters. In this case, no one was refused service because of who they are.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:4...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    "Gay wedding cakes"?

    Does that mean a cake that lisps?



    New avatar, eh? Whos the person in it?

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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It doesn't matter if this person is very masculine, the policy has to apply to everyone equally. Plus, it is still a locker room owned by the gym, not those using the locker room. The gym gets to decide the policy. If swine doesn't like it, they can join a different gym.
    That doesn't exactly jive with what you posted earlier...

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Except we don't determine in real life who uses which restroom by actual biology, but rather by how people look, their appearances. Those pictures prove it because almost everyone on here arguing about this would have stopped the first person from entering that female restroom and been shocked as hell to see the second in a male restroom. No one checks for the physical presence of a penis or vagina to determine which locker room or restroom a person uses. And DNA would be too expensive to actually check.
    Based on the fact that this person's features much more resemble a man than a woman, by your own definitions, can't I argue that the club's policies are in direct conflict with "real world" norms of behavior?

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:4...

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Because these people are not being refused service. If a gay customer came into a bakery requesting a rainbow cake for their wedding and the baker refused because they would refuse such an order for anyone, then I'd say the same to the gay customer. The reasoning behind the refusal is what matters. In this case, no one was refused service because of who they are.
    A woman was refused service because she was uncomfortable with changing next to a big ass hairy dude in a dress, and she was a paying member of the gym. The tranny wasn't even a member of the gym-he was just visiting.

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:4...

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    A woman was refused service because she was uncomfortable with changing next to a big ass hairy dude in a dress, and she was a paying member of the gym. The tranny wasn't even a member of the gym-he was just visiting.
    The "big hairy ass dude in a dress" didn't even stick around long enough to see anyone, nor did she change in the changing room.
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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    That doesn't exactly jive with what you posted earlier...


    Based on the fact that this person's features much more resemble a man than a woman, by your own definitions, can't I argue that the club's policies are in direct conflict with "real world" norms of behavior?
    Women, biological women, can appear masculine. In reality, we generally go off of what the person wears along with their attributes. For instance, very few employees at stores would stop a person from entering the ladies' room or a women's dressing room due to their looking masculine, or vice versa. Heck, I've called a woman "sir" before and had to apologize because it was wrong. It was based off of what she was wearing, her hair cut, and her "masculine" features. It happens.
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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Women, biological women, can appear masculine. In reality, we generally go off of what the person wears along with their attributes. For instance, very few employees at stores would stop a person from entering the ladies' room or a women's dressing room due to their looking masculine, or vice versa. Heck, I've called a woman "sir" before and had to apologize because it was wrong. It was based off of what she was wearing, her hair cut, and her "masculine" features. It happens.
    So, in other words, all's it really takes is a dress, a little eye liner, and a desire to use the women's facilities? Face it, you can't define your position because your position has some serious flaws.

    I don't know exactly what transpired between the woman who's membership got revoked and the people who revoked it but I can say with dead certainty that she had every right to object to the presence of a man in the woman's locker room.

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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    So, in other words, all's it really takes is a dress, a little eye liner, and a desire to use the women's facilities? Face it, you can't define your position because your position has some serious flaws.

    I don't know exactly what transpired between the woman who's membership got revoked and the people who revoked it but I can say with dead certainty that she had every right to object to the presence of a man in the woman's locker room.
    It really does just take that. Now, I would expect people to hold anyone accountable, even bring charges as necessary, for anyone who sexually assaults or harasses someone in a locker room, regardless of gender identity.

    She didn't have a right to do what she did, harass others about the policy and claim that it put her and/or them in danger. There is absolutely no evidence that she or anyone else is in danger from a policy allowing people in the locker room as the sex/gender they identify as.

    Hell, where I work, a man doesn't have to identify as a woman to enter the women's changing room, and the same goes for a woman to enter the men's changing room.
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