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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    15-years ago people were laughing because the thought of it was absurd.
    And years from now, people will think it absurd that we actually criminalized what two consenting adults do with each others body parts even in the privacy of their own home.

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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Why is it wrong to be concerned about the impact social changes will have on society?

    Depends....for some issues...probably most...there are 2 sides and both may affect society. Like once a minority is recognized as being equal and thus deserving of such rights...as happened with black and women....society and the courts must weigh the immediate and longer-term influences on society (best interests of the state) against the Constitutional rights of the individuals. Continuing to treat certain members of society as 2nd class when legitimately their Constitutional Rights or other legal rights in society are being infringed on also harms society.

    I'm discussing the US, obviously.
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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    15-years ago people were laughing because the thought of it was absurd.
    This isn't true. The only ones laughing were those too ignorant to realize what was really going on in our society. Again, DOMA was enacted over 20 years ago, after the Hawaii supreme court ruled that a law that didn't allow same sex couples to legally marry did not abide by the Hawaii state constitution. I was in the Navy over 15 years ago, and there were plenty of us discussing same sex marriage and DOMA from the position that it would only be a matter of time (decade or so at that time) when same sex couples would get legally married, and the majority of us supported that.
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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This isn't true. The only ones laughing were those too ignorant to realize what was really going on in our society. Again, DOMA was enacted over 20 years ago, after the Hawaii supreme court ruled that a law that didn't allow same sex couples to legally marry did not abide by the Hawaii state constitution. I was in the Navy over 15 years ago, and there were plenty of us discussing same sex marriage and DOMA from the position that it would only be a matter of time (decade or so at that time) when same sex couples would get legally married, and the majority of us supported that.
    My cousin and his partner adopted a baby in 2001....so that's 14 yrs ago. They were only able to marry 2 yrs ago.

    Certainly acceptance of SSM and gay families started well before 15 yrs ago and the more 'advanced' members of society knew it.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It was over 15 years ago that the first court case concerning same sex couples and marriage in the US won, in Hawaii, prompting DOMA to begin with. So your contention that 15 years ago people were laughing at the possibility of same sex marriage here in the US is ludicrous unless you're speaking about those people who are too ignorant or blind to what is going on in society to know. It was almost 20 years ago that I was arguing for same sex marriage being legal in a high school english class.
    I wrote a letter to the editor saying it should be legal in the late 80s.....

    Thrilled to see it happening!

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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Why is it wrong to be concerned about the impact social changes will have on society?
    Nothing wrong to be concerned. But even those arguing against SSM in the California Prop 8 case agreed it would be good for our country and more in keeping with our values if it was legalized.

    In this case, the impact will end up being good - less discrimination, more stable families, kids getting security, etc.

    (and by the way - all the concern in the world often doesn't stop social changes. Low rider jeans? really?)

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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    I wrote a letter to the editor saying it should be legal in the late 80s.....

    Thrilled to see it happening!
    I was in single digit age in the 80s.

    However, I was arguing for same sex marriage in the late 90s, while in high school. Even then, the most the other side could come up with was "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve". It was one of the things that pissed me off the most about that particular teacher because my debate partner and I actually researched laws and social customs throughout US history to argue our point, and the other side brought in the Bible. We both got A's.
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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I was in single digit age in the 80s.

    However, I was arguing for same sex marriage in the late 90s, while in high school. Even then, the most the other side could come up with was "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve". It was one of the things that pissed me off the most about that particular teacher because my debate partner and I actually researched laws and social customs throughout US history to argue our point, and the other side brought in the Bible. We both got A's.
    Yea for you!! but bummer on the other side getting an A too.

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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    And years from now, people will think it absurd that we actually criminalized what two consenting adults do with each others body parts even in the privacy of their own home.
    This is about the perversion of marriage, not sodomy behind closed doors.
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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    This is about the perversion of marriage, not sodomy behind closed doors.
    And it is nothing but your opinion that it is a "perversion" of marriage.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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