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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They are set up mainly so that married couples can easily account for their shared finances while reducing the chances they will be penalized for that.
    What makes them so different from everyone else? Why should they get special recognition by the tax authorities?
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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    What makes them so different from everyone else? Why should they get special recognition by the tax authorities?
    What makes anyone who gets "special recognition" by the tax authorities different than everyone else? Their choices to do something that is viewed as beneficial to society in some way.
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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Those few people are a minority, and ostracized by our society.
    No, they aren't. Many are ignored or thought ignorant, now, but they aren't really ostracized by our society. Many are older and they get the "he/she comes from a different time" (my grandparents were a good example of this), but that is not ostracizing. It is what is likely to happen to those against same sex couples getting married are going to see within the next 20 or so years, possibly less.
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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, they aren't. Many are ignored or thought ignorant, now, but they aren't really ostracized by our society. Many are older and they get the "he/she comes from a different time" (my grandparents were a good example of this), but that is not ostracizing. It is what is likely to happen to those against same sex couples getting married are going to see within the next 20 or so years, possibly less.


    I don't think so. with media, social media, etc, you may have a small group of holdouts, but they will be irrellevent.
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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, they aren't. Many are ignored or thought ignorant, now, but they aren't really ostracized by our society. Many are older and they get the "he/she comes from a different time" (my grandparents were a good example of this), but that is not ostracizing. It is what is likely to happen to those against same sex couples getting married are going to see within the next 20 or so years, possibly less.
    Wonder how ostracized Clarence Thomas and Ginny are.

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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Reverand Hellhound, I think the point about children is that, by having your marriage legally recognized by the govt, your children (and you) get a lot of protections that you wouldn't get if you didn't have the govt-legalized marriage.

    Things like inheritance rights, visitation in hospital rights, custody rights in case of the partnership splitting up, etc.

    I understand your point that you feel this should all be covered without govt interference; but that's going to be a lot of work. So given how our society is set up, it's easier to extend marriage to same sex couples (which you're fine with) than to toss the institution out altogether

    Maybe in 30 years... I read in a book one time where the author envisioned contract marriages; you got married for 5 or 10 years; at the end of that time the contract was dissolved unless both partners agreed to re-sign it. That could work.

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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I don't think so. with media, social media, etc, you may have a small group of holdouts, but they will be irrellevent.
    There is a significant portion of people against both of those, even if still a rather small percentage.

    There was a poll taken of Republicans in Mississippi in 2010 showing that 46% of them were against interracial marriage. There are still instances where JoPs will refuse to marry an interracial couple.

    From 2013:

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    In U.S., 87% Approve of Black-White Marriage, vs. 4% in 1958

    13% is a pretty relevant amount considering the time we are currently living in.
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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    There is a significant portion of people against both of those, even if still a rather small percentage.

    There was a poll taken of Republicans in Mississippi in 2010 showing that 46% of them were against interracial marriage. There are still instances where JoPs will refuse to marry an interracial couple.

    From 2013:

    498ae3155dce43bc0fc3d081d53295d4.jpg

    In U.S., 87% Approve of Black-White Marriage, vs. 4% in 1958

    13% is a pretty relevant amount considering the time we are currently living in.



    see from 95 on?


    that's that social media, thing I keep tekkubg yoou about, as it plateus, those are your hold outs, about 13% as you noted.

    That's not a relevant amount.
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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Reverand Hellhound, I think the point about children is that, by having your marriage legally recognized by the govt, your children (and you) get a lot of protections that you wouldn't get if you didn't have the govt-legalized marriage.

    Things like inheritance rights, visitation in hospital rights, custody rights in case of the partnership splitting up, etc.

    I understand your point that you feel this should all be covered without govt interference; but that's going to be a lot of work. So given how our society is set up, it's easier to extend marriage to same sex couples (which you're fine with) than to toss the institution out altogether

    Maybe in 30 years... I read in a book one time where the author envisioned contract marriages; you got married for 5 or 10 years; at the end of that time the contract was dissolved unless both partners agreed to re-sign it. That could work.
    http://reason.com/archives/2013/06/2...the-government

    "Government neutrality -- or the closest we can get to it -- is the best way to ensure fairness and social peace on this and most other social issues. Marriage is too important of an institution to be dependent on the wiles of the state. Do we really care if the state validates our marriage licenses?"
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    Re: They look like a new boy band... but it's the world's first THREE-WAY same-sex ma

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    Wonder how ostracized Clarence Thomas and Ginny are.
    Think he was saying that those against interracial marriage or legal divorce are ostracized, but this isn't a contention supported by the amount of those who oppose these things nor reality. We didn't even "ostracize" my grandparents when my mother taught us that it didn't matter what race you married. Both my father and my husband were asked if my mother and I (respectively) were white, because it still does matter to some people, in some places, in pretty significant amounts. There are still places with segregated proms.
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