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    Re: Hillary Clinton Tweets That She Wants Her Email Released To The Public

    So reading all the posts in here, it looks to me like the Liberals want this to stop right here. She's not guilty of anything, leave her alone, stop accusing her of anything. I guess I was wrong. She will win the nomination without any problems. She is trusted unconditionally.

    Damn I miss the days when politicians and everyone over the age of 30 were suspect.
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    Re: Hillary Clinton Tweets That She Wants Her Email Released To The Public

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Hillary Clinton is simply not to be trusted or believed. Her history of lies, deceptions and amnesia are too long to trust her.

    I suggest Hillary release all her emails from her server to the Benghazi Committee, and to the State Dept. Personal and otherwise. Everything. She skirted the system, she is untrustworthy... as far as I'm concerned that was the default SoS server... and the contents are our property.
    So the DoJ issues a warrant, grabs the servers where her private email are housed and allows the NSA to peruse them. So simply yet that wouldn't happen in a million years. The Clintons live by their own rules, not the rules and laws of peons like the rest of America.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Hillary Clinton Tweets That She Wants Her Email Released To The Public

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Then the posts in this thread by yourself and others are tantamount to baseless bitching and moaning. Here's what I'm hearing:

    1)"Release your emails!"
    2)"But if you do, don't doctor them!"
    3)"And if do release them and we don't see what we want to see, you deleted them!"

    So I ask, "What do you want?"

    Answer: "Release your emails!"

    And around and around and around it goes. Honestly, this has got to be one of the only "scandals" I've seen where lack of evidence is evidence of guilt.


    A valid criticism with most, honest and reasonable people.

    Hillary is not one of them. At best she is as combative as Obama. She has a record of 'misplacing' legal documents until the day after the filing deadlines, a long, long list of inconsistent statements about her affairs, has been less than honest about her personal affairs and appears to have deliberately misled the "there's nothing there/it's old news/what difference does it make" congressional hearing.

    She has given no one but Gruberites any indication she can be trusted. Of course most people will think she is deliberately hiding these emails, because she has been hiding them....they were discovered by a hacker [at least now we finally have admission they exist]. Of course honest people are going to be wary of her doctoring them, because of her history. And of course people will be suspicious about what else there might be, because these emails only came to light through accident...she did not offer them when she was asked.


    If you want to aim accusations of bitching and moaning, look in the mirror. Your last best hope to hold this house of cards together is as big a liar as Obama.

    Get used to that. The Republicans have the floor now, all of it. And they will not soon forget her attacks, nor the overall side show the Gruberites have been throwing up; if they are not regretting "enemies, traitors and terrorists!" hurled at congressmen, nor calling Sarah Palin a "whore" and a slut", they very soon will be.

    Hillary and Obama set new standards of LOW in American politics....so don't bitch and moan now when the Republican majority takes the same fight to the rats....
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    Re: Hillary Clinton Tweets That She Wants Her Email Released To The Public

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    And you have no evidence that they weren't scrubbed.
    I'm not claiming that they weren't. I'm asking for evidence that they were after clowboy claimed they were.

    Given that behavioral pattern of the person in question, I think it legitimately cautious to believe that they were scrubbed, until proven otherwise.
    I'm not into logical fallacies.
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    Re: Hillary Clinton Tweets That She Wants Her Email Released To The Public

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So the DoJ issues a warrant, grabs the servers where her private email are housed and allows the NSA to peruse them. So simply yet that wouldn't happen in a million years. The Clintons live by their own rules, not the rules and laws of peons like the rest of America.
    And there in lies the significant problem with her becoming president. We've already had one administration with a liar in chief, why would we want another?
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    Re: Hillary Clinton Tweets That She Wants Her Email Released To The Public

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So the DoJ issues a warrant, grabs the servers where her private email are housed and allows the NSA to peruse them. So simply yet that wouldn't happen in a million years. The Clintons live by their own rules, not the rules and laws of peons like the rest of America.
    That's been said repeatedly today by all sorts of people from the left, right and center. It's a bad habit that the Clintons have, believing and living like the rules simply never apply to them.
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    Re: Hillary Clinton Tweets That She Wants Her Email Released To The Public

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    And you have no evidence that they weren't scrubbed.

    Given that behavioral pattern of the person in question, I think it legitimately cautious to believe that they were scrubbed, until proven otherwise.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm not claiming that they weren't. I'm asking for evidence that they were after clowboy claimed they were.



    I'm not into logical fallacies.
    Government owned documents were kept outside of the prescribed, government controlled and managed storage facility. It is fair and prudent to not trust the documents as complete and unaltered until proven to be complete and unaltered - if possible.

    Yet you call this prudent course of action and stance a logical fallacy? I'm failing to see your logic at doing so. Please explain in detail.
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    Re: Hillary Clinton Tweets That She Wants Her Email Released To The Public

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Government owned documents were kept outside of the prescribed, government controlled and managed storage facility.
    Not evidence that they were scrubbed or that they weren't scrubbed. Try harder.

    It is fair and prudent to not trust the documents as complete and unaltered until proven to be complete and unaltered - if possible.
    What is fair and prudent is irrelevant to this discussion. A claim was made, evidence was asked to substantiate it. No evidence was provided one way or another by the person who made the claim.

    Yet you call this prudent course of action and stance a logical fallacy? I'm failing to see your logic at doing so. Please explain in detail.
    It's a logical fallacy because you have no evidence of anything one way or another but you're assuming that it went towards the situation that best benefits your preferred narrative. If you have evidence, bring it forward, if not, then you have nothing to substantiate the claim that they were "scrubbed".
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    Re: Hillary Clinton Tweets That She Wants Her Email Released To The Public

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    And there in lies the significant problem with her becoming president. We've already had one administration with a liar in chief, why would we want another?
    Because deep down (and I'm only speculating here) half the country LIKES being lied to.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Hillary Clinton Tweets That She Wants Her Email Released To The Public

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Not evidence that they were scrubbed or that they weren't scrubbed. Try harder.



    What is fair and prudent is irrelevant to this discussion. A claim was made, evidence was asked to substantiate it. No evidence was provided one way or another by the person who made the claim.



    It's a logical fallacy because you have no evidence of anything one way or another but you're assuming that it went towards the situation that best benefits your preferred narrative. If you have evidence, bring it forward, if not, then you have nothing to substantiate the claim that they were "scrubbed".
    The mere fact that they were stored outside of the prescribed, government controlled and managed storage facility is sufficient reason to distrust their completeness and integrity without some sort of verification first. These government owned documents were outside of the control of the government, the chain of custody was broken the moment those emails left the government network, so their accuracy and integrity cannot be validated without some sort of testing / validation procedure that proves they still have their original integrity.

    Come on man. Else any criminal could write up and post date a doctors note as proof of something and the court would have to accept it. That's not how it works.
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