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    Re: US Ambassador Attacked, Hurt in South Korea.....

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    Did Reagan have an issue with Security problems with his State Dept? Who has the problem now over Security issues?
    I suppose under the "buck stops here" doctrine, everything that happens is a reflection on the president. A nutter attacks our ambassador, that's a reflection on the president.

    The thing is, does he, did his predecessors, really have control over such incidents?
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    Re: US Ambassador Attacked, Hurt in South Korea.....

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    I suppose under the "buck stops here" doctrine, everything that happens is a reflection on the president. A nutter attacks our ambassador, that's a reflection on the president.

    The thing is, does he, did his predecessors, really have control over such incidents?


    Yeah but after Benghazi.....wherein several committees found lacking security and the failure to note clear warning signs.

    The issue was suppose to be taken care of.....wasn't it? Meaning there was suppose to be focus on all levels of security, Right?

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    Re: US Ambassador Attacked, Hurt in South Korea.....

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    Yeah but after Benghazi.....wherein several committees found lacking security and the failure to note clear warning signs.

    The issue was suppose to be taken care of.....wasn't it? Meaning there was suppose to be focus on all levels of security, Right?
    Good point.

    Benghazi was a total cluster(bleep!) on the part of the state department, IMO of course. Did they at least lock the barn door to keep the rest of the horses from getting out? Perhaps not.
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    Re: US Ambassador Attacked, Hurt in South Korea.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Good point.

    Benghazi was a total cluster(bleep!) on the part of the state department, IMO of course. Did they at least lock the barn door to keep the rest of the horses from getting out? Perhaps not.


    One would think State would have had all Ambassadors on heightened alert since then and with whats taken place in The ME and Africa. Especially going out in the public and speaking. We have watched attacks committed in other countries that are our allies.

    But to not even put out requests. This guy was able to attack near a dinner table too.

    Maybe State should note that there are quite a few Veterans that are looking for a job. I think this is something they can do and do very well. What do you think?

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    Re: US Ambassador Attacked, Hurt in South Korea.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah but after Benghazi.....wherein several committees found lacking security and the failure to note clear warning signs.

    The issue was suppose to be taken care of.....wasn't it? Meaning there was suppose to be focus on all levels of security, Right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Good point.

    Benghazi was a total cluster(bleep!) on the part of the state department, IMO of course. Did they at least lock the barn door to keep the rest of the horses from getting out? Perhaps not.
    Yeah, but on the flip side, is it realistic to put South Korea and Benghazi in the same category of threat risk? I'm thinking not.

    But still, it's a good point that State should have reviewed and reenforced their personnel protection plans at all levels in the Benghazi aftermath.
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    Re: US Ambassador Attacked, Hurt in South Korea.....

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Yeah, but on the flip side, is it realistic to put South Korea and Benghazi in the same category of threat risk? I'm thinking not.

    But still, it's a good point that State should have reviewed and reenforced their personnel protection plans at all levels in the Benghazi aftermath.
    Yes its realistic.....and especially after ISIS has declared war on us. Both AQ and ISIS have called for kidnappings and the killings of Americans. They are calling out lone wolves to attack us. Nutcases I guess would be considered in on that.

    So why would any guard be dropped for diplomats speaking in public anywhere else. I wouldn't care if it was Canada. Oh wait, they have had attacks there too.

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    Re: US Ambassador Attacked, Hurt in South Korea.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yes its realistic.....and especially after ISIS has declared war on us. Both AQ and ISIS have called for kidnappings and the killings of Americans. They are calling out lone wolves to attack us. Nutcases I guess would be considered in on that.

    So why would any guard be dropped for diplomats speaking in public anywhere else. I wouldn't care if it was Canada. Oh wait, they have had attacks there too.
    Yeah, OK. I can see your point, but the two aren't on the same threat / risk level, you have to admit that. To be without security at all? That's not right, I'll agree to that.
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    Re: US Ambassador Attacked, Hurt in South Korea.....

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Yeah, OK. I can see your point, but the two aren't on the same threat / risk level, you have to admit that. To be without security at all? That's not right, I'll agree to that.
    I can see the threat level being a bit lower.....but then after N Korea launches a couple of missiles at the exercises. From that moment our people should be on a High Alert. Despite the North's bluffs and threats.

    Another thing, IMO.....wouldn't take much for the North to have infiltrated into South Korea. Or have some insurgents already there.

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    Re: US Ambassador Attacked, Hurt in South Korea.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I can see the threat level being a bit lower.....but then after N Korea launches a couple of missiles at the exercises. From that moment our people should be on a High Alert. Despite the North's bluffs and threats.

    Another thing, IMO.....wouldn't take much for the North to have infiltrated into South Korea. Or have some insurgents already there.
    Same thought crossed my mind just as I was reading bluffs and threats.
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