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Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

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Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms
BBC News - Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

BBC NEWS
4 March 20125

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The cargo vessel was stopped on Saturday in the Colombian port of Cartagena

Colombian officials have detained the captain of a Chinese ship bound for Cuba for illegally carrying explosives and other arms.

The ship was stopped over the weekend in the Caribbean port of Cartagena, the attorney general's office said.

About 100 tonnes of gunpowder, almost three million detonators and some 3,000 cannon shells were found on board the Da Dan Xia, officials said.

But according to the ship's records, it was carrying grain products.

No match

"The documentation that the captain had in regards to the merchandise that was being transported did not correspond to what we found," said Luis Gonzalez, national director of the Colombian attorney general's office.

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Colombian officials found boxes of weapons aboard the Chinese cargo ship, Da Dan Xia
Wu Hong, the Chinese captain, would be charged with weapons trafficking, he added.
Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said the captain had not violated any international rules.

"It is completely normal military trade co-operation," she said.

Ms Hua said China was "communicating with the parties on this matter".

The Da Dan Xia is operated by China's largest shipping company, Cosco Shipping.
It was impounded and searched for 48 hours before the order to arrest the captain was given.

Colombian media reported that the ship was also carrying pipes used in mining and had stopped in Cartagena to unload them.

According to the reports, counter-narcotics police searched it after they had received a tip-off about the munitions on board.

The ship was due to make another stop in the Colombian port of Barranquilla before sailing on to Cuba, its itinerary suggested.

The Cuban authorities have not yet commented.

The incident comes almost two years after a North Korean crew was detained in Panama for illegally transporting war material from Cuba to North Korea through the Panama canal.

Most of the crew and the ship were allowed to return to North Korea six months later after its owners agreed to pay a fine.

The ship's captain, the first officer and the political officer were later absolved of a charge of endangering public SECURITY.
The Obama administration pressure the legislative branch of the U.S. government to remove the Castro regime from the list of terror-sponsoring nations that pose a threat to the U.S. At the same time the Colombia police received a tip-off about the munitions on board of the Da Dan Xia ship, search it and found explosives and weapons bound for Cuba.
 
The Obama administration pressure the legislative branch of the U.S. government to remove the Castro regime from the list of terror-sponsoring nations that pose a threat to the U.S.
No it doesnt.
 
No it doesnt.

Truth is, I have not seen Cuba mentioned as supporting terrorists in some time. Sending weapons to North Korea is, however, assistance of a rogue state. I also believe to remember that they had sent weapons to Iran, but am no longer sure. Iran does support terrorists and other enemies of the US. They are very much like the Russians in that.
 
The Obama administration pressure the legislative branch of the U.S. government to remove the Castro regime from the list of terror-sponsoring nations that pose a threat to the U.S. At the same time the Colombia police received a tip-off about the munitions on board of the Da Dan Xia ship, search it and found explosives and weapons bound for Cuba.

They should impound the boat and maybe auction it off. The captain should stand trial.
 
Cuba is a dummy destination, they're really going to New Hampshire for the revolution...
 
Ordinary Military supplies listed as grain products. If it is a “normal military trade co-operation” why hide it? “About 100 tons of powder, 2.6 million detonators, 99 projectiles and around 3,000 cannon shells were found", officials added.
 
China is constructing a canal across Nicaragua. It is necessary a second canal? It is really needed? I think that China is doing it for military and political reasons, to be able to ship all sorts of contraband, drugs and guns through it since it will be protected by the Chinese military.
 
The world has long figured out it can walk all over Obama. Its liberalism's sequelae...can we really be surprised?

Lolz at Obama's Cuba deal...appease them, fund them, and watch them arm up.

China already knows Obama isn't gonna do a thing. The sad part...they are right.
 
They should impound the boat and maybe auction it off. The captain should stand trial.

Colombia has no authority to effect international trade. There is no international ban on arms sales to Cuba.

The US has an embargo on trade with Cuba but that only effects US companies and individuals. That US embargo has no effect on the rest of the world.
 
Colombia has no authority to effect international trade. There is no international ban on arms sales to Cuba.

The US has an embargo on trade with Cuba but that only effects US companies and individuals. That US embargo has no effect on the rest of the world.

Was it in international waters?
Was it legal in that country to ship this contraband to Cuba?
It is not quite true that US law does not affect third countries and their citizens, if they want to do business in the US or with US citizens and companies.
 
China is constructing a canal across Nicaragua. It is necessary a second canal? It is really needed? I think that China is doing it for military and political reasons, to be able to ship all sorts of contraband, drugs and guns through it since it will be protected by the Chinese military.

And what's wrong with that?
 
Colombia has no authority to effect international trade. There is no international ban on arms sales to Cuba.

The US has an embargo on trade with Cuba but that only effects US companies and individuals. That US embargo has no effect on the rest of the world.

That's true. But the manifest should match what's in the hold.
 
Batista! He rises!!
 
Was it in international waters?
Was it legal in that country to ship this contraband to Cuba?
It is not quite true that US law does not affect third countries and their citizens, if they want to do business in the US or with US citizens and companies.

It was in port in Columbia...does not make the transaction between China and Cuba illegal.

Whether the goods are contraband is your determination.

US laws has no effect on international trade between nations. The US applies pressure on it EU trading partners and Canada to go along with sanctions...but China is not in the EU and along with Russia has followed its own path in trade with Cuba.

No way the US would abide by Chinese law outside of Chinese territory and without an agreement or treaty.
 
It was in port in Columbia...does not make the transaction between China and Cuba illegal.

Whether the goods are contraband is your determination.

US laws has no effect on international trade between nations. The US applies pressure on it EU trading partners and Canada to go along with sanctions...but China is not in the EU and along with Russia has followed its own path in trade with Cuba.

No way the US would abide by Chinese law outside of Chinese territory and without an agreement or treaty.

I don't believe the transaction is illegal if it's executed according to legal and internationally recognized codes.
 
It was in port in Columbia...does not make the transaction between China and Cuba illegal.

Whether the goods are contraband is your determination.

US laws has no effect on international trade between nations. The US applies pressure on it EU trading partners and Canada to go along with sanctions...but China is not in the EU and along with Russia has followed its own path in trade with Cuba.

No way the US would abide by Chinese law outside of Chinese territory and without an agreement or treaty.

Good thing you are here to defend the commies, eh?
 
The Obama administration pressure the legislative branch of the U.S. government to remove the Castro regime from the list of terror-sponsoring nations that pose a threat to the U.S. At the same time the Colombia police received a tip-off about the munitions on board of the Da Dan Xia ship, search it and found explosives and weapons bound for Cuba.

So what? Do you think Cuba is going to invade somewhere?
 
Good thing you are here to defend the commies, eh?

Commies? Really? Are you channelling Joe McCarthy? Must be what, 20? years since I saw that word in print.
 
The cubans and chinese are communists. Is this news?

Heheh! No, no, pretty sure I knew that.
Good to know you're vigilant against 'fellow travellers', too.
 
It was in port in Columbia...does not make the transaction between China and Cuba illegal.

Whether the goods are contraband is your determination.

US laws has no effect on international trade between nations. The US applies pressure on it EU trading partners and Canada to go along with sanctions...but China is not in the EU and along with Russia has followed its own path in trade with Cuba.

No way the US would abide by Chinese law outside of Chinese territory and without an agreement or treaty.

As I thought. The Columbians determined it was against their laws, therefore contraband and seized it. The rest has nothing to do with the price of cheese.
 
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