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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandokan View Post
    The Obama administration pressure the legislative branch of the U.S. government to remove the Castro regime from the list of terror-sponsoring nations that pose a threat to the U.S. At the same time the Colombia police received a tip-off about the munitions on board of the Da Dan Xia ship, search it and found explosives and weapons bound for Cuba.
    So what? Do you think Cuba is going to invade somewhere?
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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

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    Good thing you are here to defend the commies, eh?
    Commies? Really? Are you channelling Joe McCarthy? Must be what, 20? years since I saw that word in print.
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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Commies? Really? Are you channelling Joe McCarthy? Must be what, 20? years since I saw that word in print.
    The cubans and chinese are communists. Is this news?

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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The cubans and chinese are communists. Is this news?
    Heheh! No, no, pretty sure I knew that.
    Good to know you're vigilant against 'fellow travellers', too.
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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    It was in port in Columbia...does not make the transaction between China and Cuba illegal.

    Whether the goods are contraband is your determination.

    US laws has no effect on international trade between nations. The US applies pressure on it EU trading partners and Canada to go along with sanctions...but China is not in the EU and along with Russia has followed its own path in trade with Cuba.

    No way the US would abide by Chinese law outside of Chinese territory and without an agreement or treaty.
    As I thought. The Columbians determined it was against their laws, therefore contraband and seized it. The rest has nothing to do with the price of cheese.

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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    So what? Do you think Cuba is going to invade somewhere?
    This type of weapons will be used by the Castroit regime against the Cuban people and political dissidents, to shoot them as the Chinese did in Tiananmen Square in 1989, and Obama is rushing to establish good relation with a rogue regime.

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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    The Obama administration want to remove the Castroit regime from the list of states sponsors of terrorism, and the regime is paying back in kind. The regime will have more flexibility to get shipments of all types of war material like gunpowder, guns, shells, detonators, MIGs, missiles among others.

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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    The Castroit regime is in the list of nations that harbors and support international terrorism. The regime arrests, tortures, and murders those Cubans who pacifically dare to confront it. Basically all the Communist regimes arrested, tortured and murdered tens of millions of innocent men, women, and children and it was all for nothing. Practically all ended up in the trash heap of history, condemned for their countless crimes against humanity.

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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandokan View Post
    The Castroit regime is in the list of nations that harbors and support international terrorism. The regime arrests, tortures, and murders those Cubans who pacifically dare to confront it. Basically all the Communist regimes arrested, tortured and murdered tens of millions of innocent men, women, and children and it was all for nothing. Practically all ended up in the trash heap of history, condemned for their countless crimes against humanity.
    Right, an arbitrary list, that includes some it shouldn't, and lacks some it should.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Is Cuba Smuggling Weapons for FARC Terrorists?
    Capitol Hill Cubans: Is Cuba Smuggling Weapons for FARC Terrorists?

    at 8:19 PM Sunday, April 5, 2015

    There is a deafening silence surrounding the recent capture by the Colombian authorities of a Chinese-flagged ship, the Da Dan Xia, which was seemingly headed for Cuba with a weapons cache hidden as "grain products."

    Neither the Santos Administration, the Obama Administration, nor the Castro dictatorship want to talk about it -- or answer any questions.

    Such secrecy raises serious questions about the real purpose of the illegal weapons shipment and the lack of transparency of the Santos Administration (as it conducts negotiations with the FARC), the Obama Administration (as it seeks to remove Cuba from the state-sponsors of terrorism list) and the Castro dictatorship (sitting pretty amid no consequences).

    Here are the facts:

    - On February 28, 2015, the Da Dan Xia was intercepted in the Port of Cartagena carrying an unregistered shipment composed of 100 tons of gunpowder, 2.6 million detonators, 99 missile heads and around 3,000 artillery shells.

    - The ship's documentation sought to disguise the arms shipment as "grain products."

    - After stopping in Cartagena the vessel was bound for another Colombian port, Barranquilla, and then to Havana, Cuba.

    - The supplier was listed as Norico, a Chinese manufacturer of machinery and chemical products, as well high-tech defense products. The arms were purportedly destined for TecnoImport in Cuba, the shadowy procurement branch of the Cuban military ("MINFAR").

    Now here are the unanswered questions:

    Upon the weapons shipment being discovered, theChinese government stated that the transaction was part of "completely normal military trade co-operation."

    That's right. An arms shipment between China and Cuba would have been legal, if conducted with transparency. Instead, the parties chose to illegally conceal the weapons shipment.

    -- Why did the parties go to such lengths to conceal a shipment that could have otherwise been legal?

    -- Was it concealed because the real recipient was an illegal entity in Colombia, i.e, FARC terrorists?

    -- Is the composition of the shipment more tailored for use by non-conventional forces (such as the FARC) than for a conventional military forces (such as Cuba's MINFAR)?

    If so, this would be further incontrovertible evidence of Cuba's support for international terrorism. Thus, the silence.

    As the Obama Administration zealously seeks to remove Cuba from the state-sponsors of terrorism list, it shouldn't leave such questions unanswered -- for it will only embolden Castro's regime to continue its rogue activities.

    Let's not forget, this was the second illicit weapons shipment intercepted in the last eighteen months in which the Cuban regime was directly involved. Last year, Cuba was found in direct violation of international sanctions for attempting to smuggle 240 tons of weapons to North Korea hidden as "sugar."

    Moreover, the Obama Administration should not ignore inconvenient facts in pursuit of its policy ends.

    Last month, we also learned that Spain had (again) recently requested the extradition of two Basque terrorists ("ETA") -- to no avail. Ironically, these two Basque terrorists are also wanted for their illegal activities with the FARC.

    If the Spanish government hadn't unwittingly made this revelation, it would have been swept under the rug.

    To continue turning a blind-eye -- in order to fulfill (at all costs) Obama's deal with Cuban dictator Raul Castro -- is short-sighted, disingenuous and dangerous.

    Obama said he wants to take the Castroit regime off terrorism sponsor list. The Obama administration is going to give that too unilaterally, without asking for anything in returned. It is obvious will be done for political reason, not based in what in reality is happening.

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