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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    They should impound the boat and maybe auction it off. The captain should stand trial.
    Colombia has no authority to effect international trade. There is no international ban on arms sales to Cuba.

    The US has an embargo on trade with Cuba but that only effects US companies and individuals. That US embargo has no effect on the rest of the world.


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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Colombia has no authority to effect international trade. There is no international ban on arms sales to Cuba.

    The US has an embargo on trade with Cuba but that only effects US companies and individuals. That US embargo has no effect on the rest of the world.
    Was it in international waters?
    Was it legal in that country to ship this contraband to Cuba?
    It is not quite true that US law does not affect third countries and their citizens, if they want to do business in the US or with US citizens and companies.

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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandokan View Post
    China is constructing a canal across Nicaragua. It is necessary a second canal? It is really needed? I think that China is doing it for military and political reasons, to be able to ship all sorts of contraband, drugs and guns through it since it will be protected by the Chinese military.
    And what's wrong with that?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Colombia has no authority to effect international trade. There is no international ban on arms sales to Cuba.

    The US has an embargo on trade with Cuba but that only effects US companies and individuals. That US embargo has no effect on the rest of the world.
    That's true. But the manifest should match what's in the hold.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Batista! He rises!!
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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That's true. But the manifest should match what's in the hold.
    Is that international maritime law or Colombian law?


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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Was it in international waters?
    Was it legal in that country to ship this contraband to Cuba?
    It is not quite true that US law does not affect third countries and their citizens, if they want to do business in the US or with US citizens and companies.
    It was in port in Columbia...does not make the transaction between China and Cuba illegal.

    Whether the goods are contraband is your determination.

    US laws has no effect on international trade between nations. The US applies pressure on it EU trading partners and Canada to go along with sanctions...but China is not in the EU and along with Russia has followed its own path in trade with Cuba.

    No way the US would abide by Chinese law outside of Chinese territory and without an agreement or treaty.


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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Is that international maritime law or Colombian law?
    I think its international maritime dangerous goods code.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    It was in port in Columbia...does not make the transaction between China and Cuba illegal.

    Whether the goods are contraband is your determination.

    US laws has no effect on international trade between nations. The US applies pressure on it EU trading partners and Canada to go along with sanctions...but China is not in the EU and along with Russia has followed its own path in trade with Cuba.

    No way the US would abide by Chinese law outside of Chinese territory and without an agreement or treaty.
    I don't believe the transaction is illegal if it's executed according to legal and internationally recognized codes.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Colombia detains Cuba-bound Chinese ship carrying arms

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    It was in port in Columbia...does not make the transaction between China and Cuba illegal.

    Whether the goods are contraband is your determination.

    US laws has no effect on international trade between nations. The US applies pressure on it EU trading partners and Canada to go along with sanctions...but China is not in the EU and along with Russia has followed its own path in trade with Cuba.

    No way the US would abide by Chinese law outside of Chinese territory and without an agreement or treaty.
    Good thing you are here to defend the commies, eh?

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