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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    success doesn't mean intelligent
    Well said.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Nah, they won't because mostly only bigots vote in the repub primary
    Top prize for most bigoted post of the day. But you've still got time to top it.
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    He supports LGBT rights, and the right of states to deny them? Seems a bit contradictory.

    To the rest, wow! He had a big first day as a prospective presidential candidate.
    You have confused personal beliefs with support of states rights. As an example, I oppose government involvement in health care but I support the right of Mass. to enact Romneycare. If the majority of a state want to inflict that on themselves, states rights gives them a choice.
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    You need vast amounts of political intelligence to be president. If he can't even catch a softball like "is being gay a choice" he's barking up the wrong tree. Even Phil from Duck Duck Goose or whatever that show was had enough sense to babble on and imply things rather than just come right out and straight up say social conservative crap that cannot be massaged and defended.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Top prize for most bigoted post of the day. But you've still got time to top it.
    Not bigoted if it's true. Hey, anyone else remembered when the crowd at the repub primary debate *booed a gay soldier*??

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Ah, so it was your opinion that 90-95% of the voters vote for the POTUS candidate based on the candidate's opinion on abortion, marriage and religion, and you have nothing to back that up, and you can't even answer how 90-95% of the voters who voted in 2008 chose to vote for or not vote for Obama based on his anti-SSM stance. And you're mad that there's this little thing that people do on here, which is expecting people who make claims will back them up. Got it.

    I think you stumbled into the wrong board. See, if I posted something like "95% of the Romney voters cast a vote in 2008 for the candidate they chose because Obama opposed same sex marriage", not only would I be asked to explain that - I'd be laughed right off the board.
    I think you are a demanding, lazy person that is unwilling to accept anything as "proof" unless you can read it in 5 minutes or less.

    As far as stumbling on the wrong board...I have been on this board a long time. Longer than you as it turns out. I am continually amazed that people are shocked, shocked to find out people express their OPINIONS on a political discussion board. Most political positions are OPINIONS that are rooted in fact. I have the OPINION that wedge politics drives American voters. I have provided you with one factual anthology that backs up my OPINION with FACT. You are unwilling or unable to take the time and energy to review that book and judge the facts for yourself. That is your problem not mine. I have given you the resources. It is up to you if you want to use them or not.

    As far as being laughed off the board...I would think anyone who requires people to do their research for them instead of doing it themselves would be laughed off the board. My opinion is steadfast...the vast majority of the American electorate are defined by wedge politics. I have provided you one of the sources I used to arrive at that opinion. It is not chart, graph or short blurb by some monosyllabic hack. It is researched, documented factual account of what drives American voters. Read it...don't read it. I do not care. But do not say that I have not backed up my opinion because I have. You wold be a liar if you continue to say that. Just because you do not like how I back up my opinions that is not for you to decide.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by smb View Post
    I think you are a demanding, lazy person that is unwilling to accept anything as "proof" unless you can read it in 5 minutes or less.

    As far as stumbling on the wrong board...I have been on this board a long time. Longer than you as it turns out. I am continually amazed that people are shocked, shocked to find out people express their OPINIONS on a political discussion board. Most political positions are OPINIONS that are rooted in fact. I have the OPINION that wedge politics drives American voters. I have provided you with one factual anthology that backs up my OPINION with FACT. You are unwilling or unable to take the time and energy to review that book and judge the facts for yourself. That is your problem not mine. I have given you the resources. It is up to you if you want to use them or not.

    As far as being laughed off the board...I would think anyone who requires people to do their research for them instead of doing it themselves would be laughed off the board. My opinion is steadfast...the vast majority of the American electorate are defined by wedge politics. I have provided you one of the sources I used to arrive at that opinion. It is not chart, graph or short blurb by some monosyllabic hack. It is researched, documented factual account of what drives American voters. Read it...don't read it. I do not care. But do not say that I have not backed up my opinion because I have. You wold lying if you continue to say that. Just because you do not like how I back up my opinions that is not for you to decide.
    Sorry, you have posted nothing that backs up your claim that 90-95% of the people who cast a vote for POTUS do so based on the candidate's opinion on abortion, marriage, or religion.

    I won't report your post that calls me names, which you aren't supposed to do. I didn't call you any names. I asked you to back up your claim, which you didn't. I told you that on this board when we make claims, we back them up when asked. And I also posted an example that included Obama's stance on same sex marriage which proves that your claim that 90-95% of the people who voted for (Obama or Romney) did so because of Obama's (or Romney's) position on same sex marriage, because Obama's stated opinion is the opposite of what you would assume his supporters believe.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    True, it will not change one vote for or against him. It just shows how this guy is not ready for prime time. But he promises to bring some comedy to the doldrums of this election
    There is something quietly weird regarding Dr. Ben Carson. He's personable; hospitable and looks trustworthy UNTIL HE OPENS HIS MOUTH! Ugh! The man is a throwback to the fifties. I agree totally, he's simply not ready for prime time and there's not enough time left in his life for such.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Not bigoted if it's true. Hey, anyone else remembered when the crowd at the repub primary debate *booed a gay soldier*??
    Do you remember what the question was about?

    DADT - a Democrat President's answer to gays in the military. And since it was at that point in time declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court and repealed by congress, why was it an issue in a Republican Party debate? And why is a person's sexual preference an issue in military service?

    It is unfortunate that a lot of the audience booed the questioner. I believe many were booing the question, however. And you'd be hard pressed to make the argument that Republican voters don't respect the service of men and women of any race or sexual preference in America's armed services.

    But the bigoted part, in case you didn't catch on, is you taking that incident and claiming that "mostly only bigots" vote in Republican primaries.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    So what if they do? They are powerless without a critical mass of support, and a SCOTUS ruling on top of that makes the opposition completely impotent. Look at segregationists today to see what will become of the ben carsons 40 years from now
    I didn't say they had the power to do anything about rulings they disagree with. Your contention was that the SCOTUS ruling would somehow settle the argument. It has not settled the argument for the VRA, for abortion rights, for campaign finance, for search and seizure, for imminent domain, for guns control...I could go on and on. All of these issues are still Presidential campaign issues.

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