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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So everyone is mad because he said that gay sex in prison if proof that being gay is a choice. .
    I dont think anyone is mad....we are commenting on his beliefs as appropriate for a political candidate. And almost everyone in the thread seems to agree it's not a good choice for him.

    I do see those that are gay or see such views as disrespectful of gays not 'appreciating' his 'opinion.' But of course he's entitled to his beliefs.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    No, not reaching for anything.

    Did you decide to be straight?
    Yours is a junior high debate tactic. Does not work here. Welcome to the Big Leagues.

    This is not about me, but about a scientific study of 7,600 Swedish identical twins related to homosexuality being a choice or not.

    It's a choice.
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Some people see the sky as purple. I don't even know what "blue" is except what I think it is. For all I know I see it differently.

    My point is Carson has an opinion that is probably the result of his religious beliefs. Obama also invoked God at different times when he said that about marriage. Carson's opinion that being gay is a choice is no more harmful than the POTUS candidate displaying and articulating a clear opposition to SSM, which is what Obama did. Yet I believe a lot of people still voted for him in spite of that.

    OMG are you talking about the "is it blue and black or white and gold" thing with the dress? I'll bet that was emailed to me at least 20 times by different friends and shared on my FB page 220 times. I was ready to find that dress and kill it with a pair of scissors. Argh!
    I saw a great one that showed a blue chicken and asked, "What color is my cat?" So funny!

    Well we can continue to split hairs but I guess it's not that important. We'll just have to disagree.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Yours is a junior high debate tactic. Does not work here. Welcome to the Big Leagues.

    This is not about me, but about a scientific study of 7,600 Swedish identical twins related to homosexuality being a choice or not.

    It's a choice.
    I'm the one with a background in biology....you obviously are not. You couldnt even interpret the study properly.

    And you cant even answer a very basic question: did you choose to be straight?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    McCain didn't move into the White House in 2009, so Palin didn't help him win.
    Misinformed, a very short memory at best, and downright deceitful at worst. (Your lean is laughable btw)

    Here, let me help you recall what YOU wrote.

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    I believe that we heard this same story back when Sarah Palin was helping McCain lose in 2008.
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I'm the one with a background in biology....you obviously are not. You couldnt even interpret the study properly.

    And you cant even answer a very basic question: did you choose to be straight?
    Your education was a wasted one then, as you're blinded by ideology... and ignore science.

    I sure wouldn't want you doing any research... it'd be perverted with self-fulfilling prophecy.
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Your education was a wasted one then, as you're blinded by ideology... and ignore science.
    What ideology?

    And you still didnt answer: did you choose to be gay?

    Why no answer?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Misinformed, a very short memory at best, and downright deceitful at worst. (Your lean is laughable btw)

    Here, let me help you recall what YOU wrote.


    I know what I wrote and I also know that McCain lost, he didn't win. So how did Palin help him ?

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    What ideology?

    And you still didnt answer: did you choose to be gay?

    Why no answer?
    It's obvious... you ignore science in an attempt to fulfill your idea(ology) of the world.

    I told you some points ago, those junior high tactics have no place here. It's not about me and my choices.

    A study of 7,600 Swedish identical twins reveals truths about choice.

    Your ideology doesn't allow you to accept it because it upsets your world view. That's a typical Lib trait, and a terrible one for anyone who has anything to do with science to embrace.
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I'm the one with a background in biology....you obviously are not. You couldnt even interpret the study properly.

    And you cant even answer a very basic question: did you choose to be straight?
    The answer is that we are all predisposed to be straight. Evolution chose our sexuality, however, somewhere along the line our social evolution allowed us more liberties, where our sexual urges were not dealt with by our built-in self gratification mechanism, but instead consciously and consensually and in some cases without consent, on others. Masturbation is generally agreed upon by most biologists and anthropologists to be a vestige (Yes they actually use that word) of our ancestral lack of mates at any given moment throughout history. It was a way of us to cope with our needs and urges without upsetting the social hierarchy. It was an evolutionary advantages for us, and a necessary one. I think it still is, but I do understand how many might think of it as a vestige leftover in our DNA.

    That said, it is typically not in dispute that we evolve socially much faster than we have biologically, and as a result for anyone that thinks about this in more objective scientific terms, it's not hard to make the logical connection why some might assume homosexuality is more a socially conscious choice than it is anything related to our biological and evolutionary disposition.


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