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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    No, please source where identical twins are identical in every way. Someone can also carry genes that are not expressed..did you know that? Altho again, there is no gay gene.

    Each individual's body responds individually to external influences. While gestating, the unborn are subjected to many hormones and proteins and even chemicals (nicotine for ex) in utero. All based on how the mother eats, drinks, reacts to stresses and other influences in HER environment. These things can affect the physiology and chemical and hormonal development of the unborn individually...and are not genetic.
    7,600 pairs of identical twins under Swedish inspection.
    They had the same womb service.

    Try again.
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    How was Obama wrong? Gay marriage can be legal in all 50 states and it doesnt mean his opinion is wrong. It means that what he believes. right and wrong is subjective regarding marriage and sure, people are allowed to believe what they want.

    Not believing in actual medical and scientific things like homosexuality being a choice and evolution? That is not opinion, that's ignorance.
    I think Obama was wrong when he said that marriage should only be between a man and a woman. Did you agree with him then, and evolve to your current beliefs?

    Ben Carson believes that being gay is a choice. Isn't that his opinion too?
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I believe that we heard this same story back when Sarah Palin was helping McCain lose in 2008.
    It must be a sad existence living a life of misinformation.

    Here...let me help you:
    For over five years, a consistent media claim has been that former Alaska governor Sarah Palin hurt Republican presidential nominee John McCain in 2008 and that he would have fared better with anyone else on the ticket besides her.

    A recent study by political science professors at Bradley University debunks this claim concluding instead that Palin was a net plus for McCain including with independents and moderates.

    The first serious study on this matter was conducted by University of Central Florida political science professor Jonathan Knuckey and was published in Political Research Quarterly in April 2011:

    - See more at: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh....VaFVgPBt.dpuf
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    7,600 pairs of identical twins under Swedish inspection.
    They had the same womb service.

    Try again.
    That does not mean that the individual unborn absorbed or were affected the same way by the influences.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I think Obama was wrong when he said that marriage should only be between a man and a woman. Did you agree with him then, and evolve to your current beliefs?

    Ben Carson believes that being gay is a choice. Isn't that his opinion too?
    Carson claimed that "gay sex in prison IS PROOF that being gay is a choice." Looks like he's making a claim of proof...not an opinion. Well, unless of course a claim of proof is just an opinion.

    Whata you think?

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And again you avoid what I said: that the reason they were trying to get equality under a different label was because equality under the same label was not on the foreseeable horizon. There was no option to go for marriage. They didnt want CUs instead of marriage....it just seemed more attainable.

    Please provide sources that say gays never really wanted 'marriage' under that name. I call BS. And the bold makes no sense...that they would give up on the lower legal bar and just 'get all uppity" (implied) and then demand the Full Monty. That is some biased thought in what I bolded.
    You know what, I've humoured you this far, but I'm sick of it and I don't give a flying **** what you think of my opinion and I'm not going to spend another moment of my day amending and correcting your bastardization of what I post. Read my posts, agree or disagree, or ignore them - I don't care.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I think Obama was wrong when he said that marriage should only be between a man and a woman. Did you agree with him then, and evolve to your current beliefs?

    Ben Carson believes that being gay is a choice. Isn't that his opinion too?
    It has nothing to do with my agreeing with either. Marriage between 2 same sex people is wrong? That's opinion. And yes, I objected to his opinion.

    Gay being a choice: not an opinion so believing it is either willful or unintentional (based on religious belief...fine, same difference)...ignorance.

    Ha ha ha...I was going to use an example like: if his opinion is that the sky is purple and not blue....is he wrong or that's 'just his opinion.'

    And then I remembered that stupid thing going around about the dress! LOL
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You know what, I've humoured you this far, but I'm sick of it and I don't give a flying **** what you think of my opinion and I'm not going to spend another moment of my day amending and correcting your bastardization of what I post. Read my posts, agree or disagree, or ignore them - I don't care.

    Have a good day.
    No problem, just see my signature below in green. I was very polite...I cant help it if you dug yourself in deeper as you went.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Or it could also be that he actually believes what he said, for religious reasons or other reasons, and he saw no reason to lie about it. That's why he's a much better doctor than he's a politician.
    I thought about that in the instant I hit submit. If those are truly his beliefs, I totally agree he should voice them and not lie.

    I still think he and his advisers should think through and prepare answers that are not unnecessarily offensive, that could result in a walk back of something he said. Like the comments he apologized for.
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Carson claimed that "gay sex in prison IS PROOF that being gay is a choice." Looks like he's making a claim of proof...not an opinion. Well, unless of course a claim of proof is just an opinion.

    Whata you think?
    So everyone is mad because he said that gay sex in prison if proof that being gay is a choice. Okay. Maybe I missed the scientific studies that were done on why people engage in homosexual sexual activities in prison that either back him up or prove him wrong. I missed them.

    Barack Obama said marriage should only be between a man and a woman. That's much better, because he never mentioned that he had proof of that.

    Lesson to future politicians - never say "I have proof" or else the opposing party will be very upset. Say whatever you want about your opinion, though.
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