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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

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    I totally agree 100%!!!! im thinking because of his mental superiority at surgery he just thinks he can easily figure out the rest. He obviously doesnt have any people(advisers) yet or he ignores them.
    Or he has bad advisers who didn't think through the issues that will come up right out of the gate.
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    No, not correct because you implied that some gays wanted CUs instead of marriage. That's not completely accurate. They supported CUs in the face of no other options on the foreseeable horizon.
    And again NO, I did not say that nor imply that. I said, quite clearly, that the initial movement was to have civil unions have the same force of law as traditional marriage did. They didn't want the name initially, they wanted the benefits, privileges, and rights that heterosexual spouses have applied to SS spouses. When there was resistance to that position, they took the next step and moved to demanding that SS unions be declared legally as marriage.

    It's always wisest to state your own views clearly rather than try to speak for other people.
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

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    File paperwork to create a presidential exploratory committee on Monday, having to backpedal on Wednesday.

    The clowncar has arrived and the clowns are exiting.
    Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice
    - NBC News


    Dr. Carson will not be able to apologize his way into the White House.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    These are identical twins... identical in every way... so yes... reason says that both would be oriented one way or another... that is why they funded studies of thousands of identical twins.
    No, please source where identical twins are identical in every way. Someone can also carry genes that are not expressed..did you know that? Altho again, there is no gay gene.

    Each individual's body responds individually to external influences. While gestating, the unborn are subjected to many hormones and proteins and even chemicals (nicotine for ex) in utero. All based on how the mother eats, drinks, reacts to stresses and other influences in HER environment. These things can affect the physiology and chemical and hormonal development of the unborn individually...and are not genetic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Dr. Carson will not be able to apologize his way into the White House.
    This is hilarious... we have The Clinton Crime Family as the front runner and royalty... of the Demokrat party.

    We have a liar with no inexperience, mentored by a racist and anti-American, schooled in the ways of a Communist, and this bothers Leftists? Nooooooooooooo.

    I guess you knew Obama was lying about his gay marriage stance... it wasn't an evolution, it was a flat out lie.

    Reading stuff like yours is beyond funny.
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    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    The constitution isn't worth the parchment it's written on, if it can't guarantee equal protection. So whatever, i couldn't care less about the legal bickering, only the results. Nothing is being imposed on you either, so it doesn't effect you in the slightest.
    The Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment may or may not be the basis of a Supreme Court decision on same-sex marriage. But the guarantee of equal protection is not as simple-minded as you imagine. Hundreds of thousands of laws all over the U.S. impose all sorts of disadvantages on specified groups of people every day without raising any equal protection issue. Just think of all those poor, persecuted polygamists!

    Anyone who thinks the guarantee of equal protection of the laws is to be taken literally and applied universally should read Nordlinger v. Hahn, in which the Supreme Court upheld California's Proposition 13. The Court held that law did not violate the guarantee of equal protection, even though it required a homeowner to pay a far larger property tax than another homeowner with an almost identical property nearby. Guess that means the Constitution isn't worth the parchment it's written on.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    And again NO, I did not say that nor imply that. I said, quite clearly, that the initial movement was to have civil unions have the same force of law as traditional marriage did. They didn't want the name initially, they wanted the benefits, privileges, and rights that heterosexual spouses have applied to SS spouses. When there was resistance to that position, they took the next step and moved to demanding that SS unions be declared legally as marriage.

    It's always wisest to state your own views clearly rather than try to speak for other people.
    And again you avoid what I said: that the reason they were trying to get equality under a different label was because equality under the same label was not on the foreseeable horizon. There was no option to go for marriage. They didnt want CUs instead of marriage....it just seemed more attainable.

    Please provide sources that say gays never really wanted 'marriage' under that name. I call BS. And the bold makes no sense...that they would give up on the lower legal bar and just 'get all uppity" (implied) and then demand the Full Monty. That is some biased thought in what I bolded.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    "Gotja!(sic) games"? Asking a candidate a for the highest office in the land on a topical issue is a "gotja!(sic) game"? What do you think reporters should be allowed to ask candidates? Should they pre-approve all questions with the candidate before asking them?
    Or just check with you first?


    I believe that we heard this same story back when Sarah Palin was helping McCain lose in 2008.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Or he has bad advisers who didn't think through the issues that will come up right out of the gate.
    Or it could also be that he actually believes what he said, for religious reasons or other reasons, and he saw no reason to lie about it. That's why he's a much better doctor than he's a politician.
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm sure a lot of religious people believe that being gay is a choice. I'm sure they would also say what he did about prison and heterosexuals engaging in homosexual activity. That's his opinion. I think it's wrong, but Obama's was also wrong in 2008. And people still voted for him, knowing that as POTUS he opposed the idea of same sex marriage.
    How was Obama wrong? Gay marriage can be legal in all 50 states and it doesnt mean his opinion is wrong. It means that what he believes. right and wrong is subjective regarding marriage and sure, people are allowed to believe what they want.

    Not believing in actual medical and scientific things like homosexuality being a choice and evolution? That is not opinion, that's ignorance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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