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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Is that real? Or from the Onion?

    If real, it's terrifying. I wouldnt have him as my doctor either.
    Carson made the comment on Meet the Press. And it's circulating around various sites, but no, not the Onion.

    Here:
    WASHINGTON -- Dr. Ben Carson defended President Barack Obama Sunday against criticism that he was too inexperienced to be president. Speaking on NBC's "Meet the Press," Carson went on to suggest that certain scientific ideas, like evolution, are "just propaganda."

    Ben Carson Defends Obama But Not Evolution
    Sooo...just throwing out another remark that, in my opinion, isn't a good time to be denying "evolution" for any serious presidential hopeful.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

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    File paperwork to create a presidential exploratory committee on Monday, having to backpedal on Wednesday.

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    Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice - NBC News
    lol thats funny.
    Just one for the reason he will never be president.
    Wait till he is asked about muslims.
    He made a statement that he wont be talking about gays rights anymore . . . like he has a choice . . .can't run for president and not talk about equal rights and important national issues.

    Anybody that puts as much pure bigotry on display for the country to see will never be president
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    He supports LGBT rights, and the right of states to deny them? Seems a bit contradictory.

    To the rest, wow! He had a big first day as a prospective presidential candidate.
    it doesnt "seem", it is contradictory

    i support woman and blacks rights and Constitutional protections but if the state wants to treat them as lesser i support that too! lol <end sarcasm>

    he is obviously one of those tools that THINKS and FEELS they are already treated equal . . .
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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I can personally support individuals' attempts to codify rights that aren't obvious or apparent in law, but also respect the constitutional rights of States, if they conflict. That's what the issue is before the Supreme Court at this time, isn't it? If the Supreme Court rules that States have constitutional rights they are trying to enforce, I can respect that ruling while also believing that any State can be wrong in what legislation they adopt and support efforts to change that legislation.
    It's not that any state is trying to enforce a constitutional right by excluding same-sex partners in its marriage laws. States which continue to do that--as every state had always done until not many years ago--claim this exclusion from legal marriage does not raise any constitutional issue, any more than the exclusion of multiple partners, or ones who are younger than some specified age, or already married, or more closely related by blood than some specified degree. That's my view also.

    Family law has always been almost exclusively a state concern, and nothing in the Constitution prevents any state that chooses to from allowing homosexuals to marry each other. But people who want to advance the homosexual agenda are not content to leave it to the majority in each state to decide in their marriage laws. The democratic process is too slow for them, and they are intolerant of what they see as intolerance. These crusaders want to make everyone dance to their tune--and now.

    That is why they want the Supreme Court to concoct a constitutional right to same-sex marriage, just as people who wanted to advance the abortion agenda wanted--and got--the Court to concoct a constitutional right to abortion four decades ago. If that means making the Constitution say things most of us know very well it does not say, they could not care less. All they care about is imposing their will on everyone who does not share their glowing approval of homosexuality, and if that requires torturing the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment into something unrecognizable, if's fine by them. Most of these people don't much like the Constitution anyway.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    In 2008 it was accurate to state that marriage was only between a man and a woman (translation - no marriage for gay people)? I must be ahead of my time, because in 2008 that isn't what I believed. And that doesn't excuse him, does it? Obama made a statement based on his own beliefs/bias/whatever, like Hatuey said. It was an opinion, and Carson's opinion is just an opinion. Neither are/were right, but one has said his opinion changed, and the other hasn't, although he just said it the other day, and Obama said he opposed gay marriage for many years.
    I said in most states....that was opinion AND fact. I did qualify not all states as a couple had approved it.

    Obama's was still opinion.

    Carson's statement was not opinion, it was factually incorrect.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Carson made the comment on Meet the Press. And it's circulating around various sites, but no, not the Onion.

    Here:

    Sooo...just throwing out another remark that, in my opinion, isn't a good time to be denying "evolution" for any serious presidential hopeful.
    Dear God....

    LOL, pun intended after the fact!
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    It's not that any state is trying to enforce a constitutional right by excluding same-sex partners in its marriage laws. States which continue to do that--as every state had always done until not many years ago--claim this exclusion from legal marriage does not raise any constitutional issue, any more than the exclusion of multiple partners, or ones who are younger than some specified age, or already married, or more closely related by blood than some specified degree. That's my view also.

    Family law has always been almost exclusively a state concern, and nothing in the Constitution prevents any state that chooses to from allowing homosexuals to marry each other. But people who want to advance the homosexual agenda are not content to leave it to the majority in each state to decide in their marriage laws. The democratic process is too slow for them, and they are intolerant of what they see as intolerance. These crusaders want to make everyone dance to their tune--and now.

    That is why they want the Supreme Court to concoct a constitutional right to same-sex marriage, just as people who wanted to advance the abortion agenda wanted--and got--the Court to concoct a constitutional right to abortion four decades ago. If that means making the Constitution say things most of us know very well it does not say, they could not care less. All they care about is imposing their will on everyone who does not share their glowing approval of homosexuality, and if that requires torturing the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment into something unrecognizable, if's fine by them. Most of these people don't much like the Constitution anyway.
    The constitution isn't worth the parchment it's written on, if it can't guarantee equal protection. So whatever, i couldn't care less about the legal bickering, only the results. Nothing is being imposed on you either, so it doesn't effect you in the slightest.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Well, you were wrong.

    So, in other words, my comment was correct, discounting your false implication.
    No, not correct because you implied that some gays wanted CUs instead of marriage. That's not completely accurate. They supported CUs in the face of no other options on the foreseeable horizon.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And neither determines whether the person is stupid or not. Perfectly rational people believe silly things. There are incredibly rational members on this forum who believe vaccines have a link to alzheimer's. Other members on this forum have degrees in science but happen to be libertarians. Again, your personal beliefs on a single subject do not determine your level of intelligence.
    Preponderance of evidence....it's building.

    Not believing in evolution has been added.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes For Saying Being Gay Is a Choice

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    If it is not a choice, then identical twins would both be gay or not. And boom goes that theory.
    Being gay isnt related to a specific gene, so you're wrong.

    Did you think that to be born a certain way, it must be genetic???? There's no gene for heterosexuality.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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