House Committee Subpoenas Clinton Emails in Benghazi Probe

cpwill said:

We now know from her aides' emails that she knew immediately it was a terrorist attack, not the result of some video. Which is nonetheless what she told the families, promising that they were going to "get" the videomaker. :roll: because promising to punish an American citizen for exercising free speech in order to use him as a scapegoat for a negative consequence of an administration policy is, apparently, what SecStates' are supposed to do, anyway.

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I've read that the administration didn't want the terrorists know they knew who it was that attacked. As for the families I agree with her when she said what difference does it make how they died. It's the right wing who exploited the deaths of these four Americans because they wanted to get Obama/Clinton.

pbrauer said:

I've read that the administration didn't want the terrorists know they knew who it was that attacked

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:lol: That is crap. Not only is it unsupported, not only does it basically admit that they lied to us, it comes up with an atrocious claimed reason.

So, not only is the Obama administration dishonest, it is also so intellectually incompetent that it thinks that you can't say the words "terrorist attack" without also saying "Ansar al-Sharia Benghazi"? Yeah. Not a winning defense. Even (this is hard to say) even this administration is not (I think) that utterly stupid.

As for the families I agree with her when she said what difference does it make how they died.

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BECAUSE YOU LIED TO THEM ABOUT IT FOR POLITICAL GAIN.

It's the right wing who exploited the deaths of these four Americans because they wanted to get Obama/Clinton.

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Oh, that's interesting. I would have thought attempting to cover up a terrorist attack resulting in the death of American citizens in order to win a reelection campaign would have counted as "exploitation".

Unrepresented said:

Let's be fair. You dismiss dead Americans regularly, and conveniently justify their deaths often directly by Americans.

This passion about American lives lost is just a thinly veiled justification for partisan attacks.

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I have not and will not ever justify the deaths of Americans, outside of the worst of murderers. Dont make that mistake.

pbrauer said:

I've read that the administration didn't want the terrorists know they knew who it was that attacked. As for the families I agree with her when she said what difference does it make how they died. It's the right wing who exploited the deaths of these four Americans because they wanted to get Obama/Clinton.

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Where?

If that was true how is that she never mentioned it in testimony? She would have ended the thing right there.

And why would she think she could fool them when the Guardian had already published who the suspects were, had eye witness accounts. all she and the terrorists had to do was read the newspaper out of Obama controlled territory...

US Conservative said:

I have not and will not ever justify the deaths of Americans, outside of the worst of murderers. Dont make that mistake.

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Please remind me of your tear shedding over the deaths of Eric Wilson, Michael Brown, or any of the number of riot inducing deaths we've had of recent.

Unrepresented said:

Please remind me of your tear shedding over the deaths of Eric Wilson, Michael Brown, or any of the number of riot inducing deaths we've had of recent.

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Michael brown attacked a cop and tried to get his gun. Its a shame the police had to stop him, but his behavior brought that on himself.

Just like Hillarys behavior brought this on herself.

I just heard about this mess. It sounds like Ms. Clinton is in some hot water. According to the law, she could be fined up to 100,000 for every document pertaining to business of Secretary of State she stored on her private server and did not copy and file with the government. If they find she is guilty of concealment of classified documents she could be facing jail time. Just a few days ago Judicial Watch reported that the emails it obtained from Hillary's top advisors proved that they ALL knew immediately that what happened in Benghazi was not a protest.

The latest press release from Judicial Watch reads
(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton made the following statement regarding potential criminal violations of law in Hillary Clinton’s conducting official State Department business using a private email account:


“The latest news that Hillary Clinton, while serving as Secretary of State, conducted all of her official business on a private account may impact nearly a dozen of our Freedom of Information Act lawsuits now active in federal courts as well as dozens of pending FOIA requests. As with what happened when Judicial Watch forced the disclosure of the ‘missing’ IRS emails, I am convinced that these emails would never have been disclosed but for our FOIA lawsuits that broke open the Benghazi scandal and first exposed the scandal of her and Bill Clinton raising money illicitly while she was Secretary of State.

“We are concerned that the Obama administration may have withheld material information and may have purposely misled and lied to Judicial Watch, as well as at least one federal court about these emails.

“One key concern is that these emails must be immediately secured so that they can be searched in response to our lawful FOIA requests. In addition to violations of the Freedom of Information Act, laws governing the preservation of federal records and the handling of classified information also may be implicated in this latest Clinton scandal.”
Judicial Watch Statement on Hillary Clinton

US Conservative said:

A woman who lied to the faces of the parents/family of 4 dead Americans-and who has not only refused to cooperate, but the more she's investigated the more we find?

Yeah. Thats what needs to be investigated.

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BENGHAZI!!!! :roll:

And now it's apparently been told that Colin Powell also did the same thing. Oops. I don't think we're going to investigate him are we?

SouthernBelle82 said:

BENGHAZI!!!! :roll:

And now it's apparently been told that Colin Powell also did the same thing. Oops. I don't think we're going to investigate him are we?

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Powell set up a private email server for the purpose of circumventing FOIA and Oversight Committee request ?

And newly released E-mails from a Clinton aide show that Clinton new that the Benghazi attack was a Terrorist attack almsost immediately.

I don't being lied to by Politicians so why would you ?

And do you think the Family members of the people who lost their lives enjoyed being lied to by the Secretary of state ?

Fenton said:

Powell set up a private email server for the purpose of circumventing FOIA and Oversight Committee request ?

And newly released E-mails from a Clinton aide show that Clinton new that the Benghazi attack was a Terrorist attack almsost immediately.

I don't being lied to by Politicians so why would you ?

And do you think the Family members of the people who lost their lives enjoyed being lied to by the Secretary of state ?

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So you're now the spokes person for these people? Do they even know you exist? I don't think so. I think it's quite rude you're using people for your own agenda. How sad is that? You think you know how strangers are going to feel? Tsk. I think if these families had such issues with anything they can speak up. You know social media and everything exists now. Speak to speaking on your own behalf and not for people who don't even know you exist. You right wingers love to do that when any democrat does so take your own advice for once.

So you want her to release the Emails yet even though she is you're not trusting it? So, what? You don't want anything. You just want someone to crucify for that Benghazi binky.

And yes Powell's staff did the SAME EXACT thing with Emails as Clinton did. And Clinton apparently had this way before any Benghazi binky came along.

And nothing has been shown yet. So how do you know there's any sort of lies? You're jumping the gun there dear. Might want to have a seat and have some tea and wait to see what's there.

SouthernBelle82 said:

So you're now the spokes person for these people? Do they even know you exist? I don't think so. I think it's quite rude you're using people for your own agenda. How sad is that? You think you know how strangers are going to feel? Tsk. I think if these families had such issues with anything they can speak up. You know social media and everything exists now. Speak to speaking on your own behalf and not for people who don't even know you exist. You right wingers love to do that when any democrat does so take your own advice for once.

So you want her to release the Emails yet even though she is you're not trusting it? So, what? You don't want anything. You just want someone to crucify for that Benghazi binky.

And yes Powell's staff did the SAME EXACT thing with Emails as Clinton did. And Clinton apparently had this way before any Benghazi binky came along.

And nothing has been shown yet. So how do you know there's any sort of lies? You're jumping the gun there dear. Might want to have a seat and have some tea and wait to see what's there.

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Funny, your accusations of Politicizing the deaths of 4 Americans.

Well not funny, more like very hypocritical.

The Obama administration and Hillary Clinton manufactured a false narrative about a YouTube video right before a election because telling the TRUTH was Politically inconvenient.

The Democrats Politicized the deaths of four Americans the night of the Benghazi attack and continue to do so to this day.

And I can't pretend to know what the parents of these Americans are thinking but I know I wouldn't want to be lied to.

Oh and please link to a source that shows any prior Secretary of state settling up their own private email.

SouthernBelle82 said:

BENGHAZI!!!! :roll:

And now it's apparently been told that Colin Powell also did the same thing. Oops. I don't think we're going to investigate him are we?

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Colin Powell isn't the subject of this thread. But I'm sure you could start an investigation (and another thread) on him. Call your Congressman.

Fenton said:

Funny, your accusations of Politicizing the deaths of 4 Americans.

Well not funny, more like very hypocritical.

The Obama administration and Hillary Clinton manufactured a false narrative about a YouTube video right before a election because telling the TRUTH was Politically inconvenient.

The Democrats Politicized the deaths of four Americans the night of the Benghazi attack and continue to do so to this day.

And I can't pretend to know what the parents of these Americans are thinking but I know I wouldn't want to be lied to.

Oh and please link to a source that shows any prior Secretary of state settling up their own private email.

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Are you even reading your words? :2no4: What do you think you all are doing? You're trying to speak for families of four people who are dead who don't know you exist. Stop it. It's rude and disrespectful to the dead. If their families had any issues they have social media or the greater media at large they can speak to. Stop trying to speak for them. Speak for yourself. You're being quite hypocritical here. I don't think you're even realizing what you're saying. You just want something to rant about and have probably been hating on the Clinton's for years. And it's not like they're even going to see this forum and see your posts. All you're doing is showing your own character and the type of person you are to anyone who does see.

And about the whole thing it's only you right wingers who are still going on and on and on and on about it. The Democrats did the investigation and ended it and it's only you all who are still sucking this tit dry. Even in your own investigation it didn't do what you wanted and you're still harping on. Isn't it tiring?

Colin Powell isn't the subject of this thread. But I'm sure you could start an investigation (and another thread) on him. Call your Congressman.

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Why would I? His staff already confirmed it. And doesn't matter about him. It's the same subject about the Emails so yes it is.

SouthernBelle82 said:

Are you even reading your words? :2no4: What do you think you all are doing? You're trying to speak for families of four people who are dead who don't know you exist. Stop it. It's rude and disrespectful to the dead. If their families had any issues they have social media or the greater media at large they can speak to. Stop trying to speak for them. Speak for yourself. You're being quite hypocritical here. I don't think you're even realizing what you're saying. You just want something to rant about and have probably been hating on the Clinton's for years. And it's not like they're even going to see this forum and see your posts. All you're doing is showing your own character and the type of person you are to anyone who does see.

And about the whole thing it's only you right wingers who are still going on and on and on and on about it. The Democrats did the investigation and ended it and it's only you all who are still sucking this tit dry. Even in your own investigation it didn't do what you wanted and you're still harping on. Isn't it tiring?



Why would I? His staff already confirmed it. And doesn't matter about him. It's the same subject about the Emails so yes it is.

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Good thing the GOP is still investigating.

The Democrats would still be trying to push the lie about a YouTube video if it wasn't for the Oversight committee.

Now we all know the Obama administration put Politics and agenda before truth and basis human decency and Politiced the deaths of four Americans.

And we also now know that Hillary set up a private email server for the purpose of circumventing FOIA and Oversight Committee request.

Thank God for honest Politicians like Trey Gowdy.

If you don't like your Politicians lies being exposed I suggest you switch parties. Because the Democrats are corrupt and have been for some time and lies typically surface given enough time.

Fenton said:

Good thing the GOP is still investigating.

The Democrats would still be trying to push the lie about a YouTube video if it wasn't for the Oversight committee.

Now we all know the Obama administration put Politics and agenda before truth and basis human decency and Politiced the deaths of four Americans.

And we also now know that Hillary set up a private email server for the purpose of circumventing FOIA and Oversight Committee request.

Thank God for honest Politicians like Trey Gowdy.

If you don't like your Politicians lies being exposed I suggest you switch parties. Because the Democrats are corrupt and have been for some time and lies typically surface given enough time.

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It's sad you can't see what you're even saying... .Uh I'm not a democrat hun. See the little lean title there?

Oh dear. And let me guess. You think only the republicans are clean and can save you?

SouthernBelle82 said:

It's sad you can't see what you're even saying... .Uh I'm not a democrat hun. See the little lean title there?

Oh dear. And let me guess. You think only the republicans are clean and can save you?

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I can see very clearly what I'm writing.

No I don't think all Republicans are perfect but the Democrats and this administration have shown time and time again that they cannot be trusted.

Clinton's actions in this issue only re-inforce my assertions that the Democrats are fundamentally corrupt

pbrauer said:

Do you remember Colin Powell February 2003 speaking at the UN? I wonder how the families of the almost 5000 troops who died in Iraq feel.

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cpwill said:

:shrug: Colin Powell didn't lie. He was wrong, but he believed what he was saying. That's the difference between him and Hilary - Hilary lied. She did it on purpose she did it to grieving families, and she did it for partisan advantage.

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Not really surprised at that Pete.

In the world of moral equivalences, intent is meaningless? And now, elected officials lying to the public is just as meaningless?

Do you realize that by lowing the standards this way, you are only going to get more of it and worse, rather than turning the tide of it back and reduce it and elevating the expectations of elected officials, right? I mean, the more misbehavior you are willing to accept, the more misbehavior and the worse the misbehavior you will get.

pbrauer said:

Do you remember Colin Powell February 2003 speaking at the UN? I wonder how the families of the almost 5000 troops who died in Iraq feel.

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pbrauer said:

I've read that the administration didn't want the terrorists know they knew who it was that attacked. As for the families I agree with her when she said what difference does it make how they died. It's the right wing who exploited the deaths of these four Americans because they wanted to get Obama/Clinton.

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Stop it Pete. The contortions, distortions and rationalizations are getting pretty ugly there. I say enough!

Fenton said:

I can see very clearly what I'm writing.

No I don't think all Republicans are perfect but the Democrats and this administration have shown time and time again that they cannot be trusted.

Clinton's actions in this issue only re-inforce my assertions that the Democrats are fundamentally corrupt

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:2no4:

Typical partisan response. Shame, really. And you really don't get what you're writing. You're writing the exact same stuff you excuse the others of doing and you don't even realize it. This is why I hate mainstream American politics. There's never any real discussions going on. It's just sport team mentality and "my team is better than yours!" "Nuh uh! your team are liars and frauds! Mine rules! Go team go!"

eohrnberger said:

Stop it Pete. The contortions, distortions and rationalizations are getting pretty ugly there. I say enough!

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What needs to stop is the Right Wing using the families of the 4 who died at Benghazi for political gain.

SouthernBelle82 said:

So you're now the spokes person for these people? Do they even know you exist? I don't think so. I think it's quite rude you're using people for your own agenda. How sad is that? You think you know how strangers are going to feel? Tsk. I think if these families had such issues with anything they can speak up. You know social media and everything exists now. Speak to speaking on your own behalf and not for people who don't even know you exist. You right wingers love to do that when any democrat does so take your own advice for once.

So you want her to release the Emails yet even though she is you're not trusting it? So, what? You don't want anything. You just want someone to crucify for that Benghazi binky.

And yes Powell's staff did the SAME EXACT thing with Emails as Clinton did. And Clinton apparently had this way before any Benghazi binky came along.

And nothing has been shown yet. So how do you know there's any sort of lies? You're jumping the gun there dear. Might want to have a seat and have some tea and wait to see what's there.

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I find your post offensive in the extreme.

Not only is it misleading, it plays politics with what happened...a continuation of the callous disregard for the sanctity of life of Americans, especially those that serve the people of the United States.

Colin Powell, to my knowledge never testified to a congressional committee about deliberately lying about the cause of death of four Americans who were slain while in the service of the country. Colin Powell, to my knowledge never deliberately misled congress, and the American people about his emails or went to lengths to hide the content of them from the American public.

Four Americans died in that attack. Obama and Hillary would like us to forget that. In the end, though, they both reveal a grotesque insensitivity toward the people who volunteer to serve their country and the families who suffer because of their stupid, selfish political decisions. As the Gruberites, MSM and Obama have fought this inquiry into the deaths, they show conclusively that they will sacrifice human life for their own, self centered political aims.

They aren't even looking for the assassins....the main thrust since those four men were slain has been ass covering, NOT sending a message to terrorists that killing an American has fatal consequences...

You don't care about the dead in this or their suffering families

pbrauer said:

What needs to stop is the Right Wing using the families of the 4 who died at Benghazi for political gain.

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Yeah... right.

pbrauer said:

What needs to stop is the Right Wing using the families of the 4 who died at Benghazi for political gain.

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I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that, but that being said, it's pretty clear that the entire YouTube Video meme from the administration's various levels was grossly misleading, and essentially lying to the entire nation and world. Something for which they've not been held accountable for, as of yet.

Fault can also be found in the bumbling way that the Republican committees have gone about investigating and conducting hearings on this. I'd agree that the investigation and related hearings should have been far more efficiently, effectively and more concisely conducted, come to a conclusion and a decision, and should have been over by now, should they have been given all the pertinent information and documentation (seems they weren't given all, or even most, of Clinton's emails of the time), so to that end, it could even be considered a self-inflicted wound.

Fearandloathing said:

I find your post offensive in the extreme.

Not only is it misleading, it plays politics with what happened...a continuation of the callous disregard for the sanctity of life of Americans, especially those that serve the people of the United States.

Colin Powell, to my knowledge never testified to a congressional committee about deliberately lying about the cause of death of four Americans who were slain while in the service of the country. Colin Powell, to my knowledge never deliberately misled congress, and the American people about his emails or went to lengths to hide the content of them from the American public.

Four Americans died in that attack. Obama and Hillary would like us to forget that. In the end, though, they both reveal a grotesque insensitivity toward the people who volunteer to serve their country and the families who suffer because of their stupid, selfish political decisions. As the Gruberites, MSM and Obama have fought this inquiry into the deaths, they show conclusively that they will sacrifice human life for their own, self centered political aims.

They aren't even looking for the assassins....the main thrust since those four men were slain has been ass covering, NOT sending a message to terrorists that killing an American has fatal consequences...

You don't care about the dead in this or their suffering families

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Exactly what my point was. And you guys do this all the time with soldiers dying from Afghanistan and Iraq. So, you're saying? You don't give a tinkers damn about these families. You just want to hurt Hillary Clinton because of the whole "my team is better than yours" bull****. Cut with the crap. You're not fooling.

And wasn't it the Bush administration who cut all that **** anyways? It was the Bush administration who cut all that security at these embassy's. So, cut the crap.

And fyi no I don't care about them. I don't know them. They don't mean anything to me. Just like they don't give a damn about me. It would be creepy.

SouthernBelle82 said:

Exactly what my point was. And you guys do this all the time with soldiers dying from Afghanistan and Iraq. So, you're saying?

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Is not Obama responsible for that?

And HE is responsible for troops dying in five other regions, where American soldiers did not have to be when he was elected.

So you divert the topic to his failures an prove my point the administration could give a fiddler's **** about American lives.

If Obama loves America so much, explain why he abandoned Iraq. Explain why he took a stable country like Libya and turned it into a hell hole where ISIS is allowed to expand. Those weren't Bush's moves, they were Obama's on Hillary's say.


They lied, Americans died and now she wants to hide...

That proves neither give a **** about American life.

Now, you will respond with some form of "he inherited those wars.." or "what about Bush" or some other long dead lame excuse for a ****ed up administration that can't even keep its correspondence straight.