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    Re: Alabama Supreme Court Orders Judges to Stop Gay Marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    1.)You can be opposed to SSM without being a bigot.
    2.)When your best argument is that the other guys are bigots, you are doing more harm than good to your own cause.
    1.) yes that is 100% true by definition, good thing i have never said different and in fact I have made that same statement many times on this board
    2.) i disagree when the its used accurately I will continue to use the word based on its definition

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    Re: Alabama Supreme Court Orders Judges to Stop Gay Marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You can be opposed to SSM without being a bigot.
    How so?

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    Re: Alabama Supreme Court Orders Judges to Stop Gay Marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    How so?
    Most simply, you can believe that your religion is against it.
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    Re: Alabama Supreme Court Orders Judges to Stop Gay Marriages

    FFS it's time to let all consenting adults in this country marry whomever they please. Gay, polygamist, whatever. As long as all parties are of legal age of consent, who the **** cares about who marries who?
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    Re: Alabama Supreme Court Orders Judges to Stop Gay Marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    How so?
    thats easy, simply feelings without action

    Bigot
    : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

    I have no problem with anybody that THINKS/FEELS equal rights for gays is wrong etc. But if they are actively trying to stop it then by definition they are bigots. If they actively treat gays as lesser they are a bigot.
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    Re: Alabama Supreme Court Orders Judges to Stop Gay Marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Most simply, you can believe that your religion is against it.
    I personally disagree with the people who think gay marriage is wrong. But I 100% agree with your line of thinking in this post and the other. Resorting to name calling isn't going to work (for either side). If someone's religious beliefs tell him that marriage is only between a man and a woman, that's doesn't make that person a bigot.
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    Re: Alabama Supreme Court Orders Judges to Stop Gay Marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I personally disagree with the people who think gay marriage is wrong. But I 100% agree with your line of thinking in this post and the other. Resorting to name calling isn't going to work (for either side). If someone's religious beliefs tell him that marriage is only between a man and a woman, that's doesn't make that person a bigot.
    The sad part is that the people who will be harmed the most by people who think name calling is good debate are the very people they profess to be trying to support. Most likely by summer SSM will be legal in this country. And then gay couples will have to live with all their neighbors who have been called bigots and worse and are a trifle bitter over it. There are effective arguments for SSM that have nothing to do with those opposed, and are actually effective. But those take actual knowledge to make. It is easier just to call every one who disagrees a bigot.
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    Re: Alabama Supreme Court Orders Judges to Stop Gay Marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
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    can't give that the traditional thanks, but that position needs underscoring.

    The bigotry on both sides is astounding, sweeping assumptions made about entire groups, nay nations of people....

    Man is free, by the will of God. Man is free, allegedly, by the doctrine of the United States constitution, which also states that 'congress shall make no law...." and the rest about religion.

    My denomination is fence sitting. I have supported gay marriage since the mid 90's and cheered when it was legalized here around 2000. Some in my church oppose gay marriage and support a legal challenge that says a local Christian college can have students sign a document saying they will refrain from sex outside of marriage, with specific reference to same sax union. I and a number of others do not. We get along fine and never argue.

    So I read this thread, and have to ask who is the bigot? Those who accept an opposing view for what it is and go on? Or those who have to lash out at every decision and ruling that does not go their way, attack and insult individuals because they have a different opinion?
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    Re: Alabama Supreme Court Orders Judges to Stop Gay Marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Most simply, you can believe that your religion is against it.
    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    thats easy, simply feelings without action

    Bigot
    : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

    I have no problem with anybody that THINKS/FEELS equal rights for gays is wrong etc. But if they are actively trying to stop it then by definition they are bigots. If they actively treat gays as lesser they are a bigot.
    Thanks for the replies.
    Personally I hold that a bigot is one who acts in some way on prejudices. As people we all have likes and dislikes and as intelligent people we overcome them when it comes to actions that are discriminatory. I for instance do not associate with some groups of people because I do not wish to get into an antagonizing situations with people with whom I may share other common ground. There are of course always exceptions.

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    Re: Alabama Supreme Court Orders Judges to Stop Gay Marriages

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The sad part is that the people who will be harmed the most by people who think name calling is good debate are the very people they profess to be trying to support. Most likely by summer SSM will be legal in this country. And then gay couples will have to live with all their neighbors who have been called bigots and worse and are a trifle bitter over it. There are effective arguments for SSM that have nothing to do with those opposed, and are actually effective. But those take actual knowledge to make. It is easier just to call every one who disagrees a bigot.
    Calling people who oppose SSM "bigots" in my opinion is no better than when people who oppose SSM call the couple "perverts" or any other name. Name calling, it's always name calling.
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