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    Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Ferguson

    Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Ferguson - CNN.com

    Washington (CNN)A Justice Department civil rights investigation has concluded that the Ferguson Police Department and the city's municipal court engaged in a "pattern and practice" of discrimination against African Americans, targeting them disproportionately for traffic stops, use of force, and jail sentences, according to a U.S. law enforcement official briefed on the investigation.


    The probe is the result of an investigation ordered by Attorney General Eric Holder after the police shooting that killed Michael Brown last summer.

    Among the findings, reviewed by CNN: from 2012 to 2014, 85% of people subject to vehicle stops by Ferguson police were African American; 90% of those who received citations were black; and 93% of people arrested were black. This while 67% of the Ferguson population is black.
    Was there any chance whatsoever Holder would have accepted a conclusion that said anything differently?

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    The only actionable items this report equates to are things the Ferguson Police Department / DA / and Local Criminal Courts are going to have to address one way or another. And addressing these items does not necessarily mean real changes, although some items might. Politically, this was about the only thing Holder was going to be able to accomplish in Ferguson.
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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    We needed the justice department to investigate in order to confirm the obvious!
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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    "Among the findings, reviewed by CNN: from 2012 to 2014, 85% of people subject to vehicle stops by Ferguson police were African American; 90% of those who received citations were black; and 93% of people arrested were black. This while 67% of the Ferguson population is black."

    Those numbers don't strike me as unreasonable. But those numbers cant be viewed in a vacuum. They should be compared and contrasted to arrest numbers in similar communities to see if they are indicative of anything.

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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    We needed the justice department to investigate in order to confirm the obvious!
    What is obvious? That the majority of those arrested in a majority black community are black? Youre right. That is obvious.

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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    "Among the findings, reviewed by CNN: from 2012 to 2014, 85% of people subject to vehicle stops by Ferguson police were African American; 90% of those who received citations were black; and 93% of people arrested were black. This while 67% of the Ferguson population is black."

    Those numbers don't strike me as unreasonable. But those numbers cant be viewed in a vacuum. They should be compared and contrasted to arrest numbers in similar communities to see if they are indicative of anything.
    I completely agree with this statement, although at first glance those numbers seem to be indicative of racism to me. 33% of the population is not black yet those demographics account for just 7% of arrests. That does sound racist to me. But again, I agree, you need to look at the bigger picture to know one way or another.

    The biggest question I have is what percentage of car owners/drivers in Ferguson are black. 67% of the population is black, but how many are over the age of 16 and how many are younger? And the bigger question is what percentage of arrests were for non-violent crimes? I think that arrests for non-violent crimes are far more often motivated by prejudice than arrests for violent crimes. If a black man and a white man assault the same woman, they'll both be headed to prison. But if a black man and a white man are both caught with a small amount of marijuana, that might not be the case.
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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    I completely agree with this statement, although at first glance those numbers seem to be indicative of racism to me. 33% of the population is not black yet those demographics account for just 7% of arrests. That does sound racist to me. But again, I agree, you need to look at the bigger picture to know one way or another.

    The biggest question I have is what percentage of car owners/drivers in Ferguson are black. 67% of the population is black, but how many are over the age of 16 and how many are younger? And the bigger question is what percentage of arrests were for non-violent crimes? I think that arrests for non-violent crimes are far more often motivated by prejudice than arrests for violent crimes. If a black man and a white man assault the same woman, they'll both be headed to prison. But if a black man and a white man are both caught with a small amount of marijuana, that might not be the case.
    We have no idea if there were extra cops in certain 'bad' neighborhoods [possibly mostly Black ones] that arrested, cited, or detained the majority of these reported cases.

    And that's not surprising.
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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Well it is common knowledge that the blacks are terrible tippers -and- drivers..

    Duh..


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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    I completely agree with this statement, although at first glance those numbers seem to be indicative of racism to me. 33% of the population is not black yet those demographics account for just 7% of arrests. That does sound racist to me. But again, I agree, you need to look at the bigger picture to know one way or another.

    The biggest question I have is what percentage of car owners/drivers in Ferguson are black. 67% of the population is black, but how many are over the age of 16 and how many are younger? And the bigger question is what percentage of arrests were for non-violent crimes? I think that arrests for non-violent crimes are far more often motivated by prejudice than arrests for violent crimes. If a black man and a white man assault the same woman, they'll both be headed to prison. But if a black man and a white man are both caught with a small amount of marijuana, that might not be the case.
    Why is that indicative of racism? If one group is committing a higher than proportionate level of crimes, wouldn't they have more interactions with the police?

    Can you give me a specific example where a person committing a crime was overlooked by police based merely on race?

    What evidence do you have that non-violent crimes are far more likely to be motivated by prejudice/racism?

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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    What is obvious? That the majority of those arrested in a majority black community are black? Youre right. That is obvious.
    Typical, you haven't a clue what the justice departments report says.
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