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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    The disconnect as it occurs here, comes from what? Genetics? Or is it environment, in the raising and nurturing of a child. One thing I notice through the Caribbean, Africa and so forth is a propensity for women to birth children from different fathers, few of whom stick around to raise what they have sewn. How does that contribute to that disconnect? While it is common in much of Africa to have a brother who is also a cousin, it is a source of shame in our culture.

    All of these things affect the socio-economic aspects of the race in ways that job programs, AA, and any race based program can't begin to influence...mere band aids, if that, to a cancer too long ignored.

    I doubt that the same numbers would apply here. We have few blacks, but our crime comes predominantly from First Nations, for the same reasons it seems. So I dismiss genetics, but aim at the social mileaux in which they are being raised. Something we conveniently ignore because we have all these affirmative action programs we are told work.....

    They don't
    I agree but we have a POTUS who can't even call terrorists by their name, you think he's going to address any of this?

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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Your problem is that you are asking me to assume facts not in evidence. Maybe thats good enough for the left, but not me.
    No, nobody is asking that of you. You've been shown plenty of facts. It's your interpretation that is the problem. You are incapable of seeing racist operations without a literal black and white, written racist policy. It was your own words. If that's your standard, there's nothing else to say. This was never about facts, for you.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

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    Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Ferguson - CNN.com



    Was there any chance whatsoever Holder would have accepted a conclusion that said anything differently?
    Was there any chance whatsoever Erod would accept a conclusion with these numbers... ever?
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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, nobody is asking that of you. You've been shown plenty of facts. It's your interpretation that is the problem. You are incapable of seeing racist operations without a literal black and white, written racist policy. It was your own words. If that's your standard, there's nothing else to say. This was never about facts, for you.
    Since you appear so sure of how ones interpretation should be I will ask you-Asians have a much lower crime rate than even whites. Is this too evidence of racism? Are all of the various ethnicities of cops and lawyers and judges and jurors across the nation colluding to help asians and stick it to whitey?

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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    They keep this **** up and cops are likely to stop patrolling black neighborhoods. Seriously. Why risk being hammered as racist? Just ignore the black parts of town and be done with it. Damn this report is high on the stupid....
    Yes... those Ferguson cops are such victims. Poor guys.
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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    For the moment, lets say its true that blacks and whites have parity on marijuana use ( I haven't seen any study to suggest for or against that). You can't get from there to the fact that blacks are more likely to be arrested for marijuana use without looking at the factors in between. Could they have been more likely to be out in public? Driving erratically? Caught for another crime and then marijuana was found? Less likely to have a legal reason to be using medical marijuana? More likely to commit other crimes that would lead cops to them? More gang activity? (btw there are stats for these)

    Do you understand what Im saying? You simply can't make the jump from one to the other without knowing these things.
    Here's those stats you haven't seen before.

    The black/white marijuana arrest gap, in nine charts - The Washington Post
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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Already hashed out in this very thread. Do try and read before commenting next time.

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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Since you appear so sure of how ones interpretation should be I will ask you-Asians have a much lower crime rate than even whites. Is this too evidence of racism? Are all of the various ethnicities of cops and lawyers and judges and jurors across the nation colluding to help asians and stick it to whitey?
    Deflection. You asked for literal written policy to target based on race. There is no standard that would convince you. Nothing else to discuss.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    They keep this **** up and cops are likely to stop patrolling black neighborhoods. Seriously. Why risk being hammered as racist? Just ignore the black parts of town and be done with it. Damn this report is high on the stupid....
    This happened in Cincinnati. In 2001 or so, an unarmed black mope named Timothy Thomas was wanted for 14 minor violations. White CPD officer Steven Roach was told TT had 14 warrants rather than minor capiases and gave chase. in a dark alley, in one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the USA, Roach cornered Thomas who-like many young black males-didn't believe in belts and his pants were about at his knees. TT grabbed to pull up his sagging pants and Roach shot him fatally, thinking TT was grabbing a weapon. Blacks rioted and various criminal apologists and anti cop black racists damned the CPD. So the Police stopped vigorous law enforcement efforts in black areas of Cincinnati. Over the next 100 weeks or so-there were over 110 murders in Cincinnati, every one of them involved blacks killing blacks-almost all in areas that the CPD treated to a hands off approach.. Cincinnati Proper is 43% black yet in that two year period, all the murders involved blacks



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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Deflection. You asked for literal written policy to target based on race. There is no standard that would convince you. Nothing else to discuss.
    You can't just type "deflection" You can't show me any evidence. This isn't the salem witch trials. And if its acceptable for you to cite raw facts that lead to a false inference-its ok for me to show that other races have a lower arrest/conviction rate than whites.

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