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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

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    Have you... ever spent time say on a community ride along, or worked for or with the police?
    I really would like to see more libs do that. Its remarkable that they love govt but not the enforcement arm of said govt.

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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Have you... ever spent time say on a community ride along, or worked for or with the police?
    No, have you? I don't know why you're asking me that. I have an in-law who is a police officer, and a friend who is a fireman, but that's it.
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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

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    No, have you? I don't know why you're asking me that. I have an in-law who is a police officer, and a friend who is a fireman, but that's it.
    I have. It is an enlightenning experience.

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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I have. It is an enlightenning experience.
    So...

    I don't understand what you're getting at here.
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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    So...

    I don't understand what you're getting at here.
    I could tell you bout my year working for the Dept. The **** I saw, and what law enforcement deals with or you could find out when the next community out reach is and see for yourself.

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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I could tell you bout my year working for the Dept. The **** I saw, and what law enforcement deals with or you could find out when the next community out reach is and see for yourself.
    You're not actually saying anything that relates to this thread. I think that you're trying to subtly say that black people are scary but don't want to sound racist. If that's not what you're trying to say, then I don't get it.

    Like I said, I have an in-law who is a police officer. I have had mostly positive experiences with police officers, except the one who used to drive by me every night because I took a walk at 3 AM before I went to bed. He was a jerk. But the fact that I know a good cop and have mostly positive experiences with them do not negate several forms of evidence that say, generally, black people are more likely than white people to be arrested for non-violent crime. They're more likely to be pulled over. I have a friend who is from the Middle East and he is "randomly" chosen to be searched every single time he goes through airport security. That's just how our world works.
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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Ferguson - CNN.com



    Was there any chance whatsoever Holder would have accepted a conclusion that said anything differently?
    538 has some solid work on this.

    Ferguson
    Are The Racial Disparities In Ferguson’s Traffic Stops Unusual?

    By Mona Chalabi

    For years, black residents of Ferguson, Missouri, have been disproportionately targeted by the city’s police officers for traffic stops, according to a damning Justice Department report released Wednesday detailing how the city police department violated civil rights laws. Data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) suggests that police behavior in Ferguson may not be that unusual.

    In September 2013, the BJS published a report that found that overall, 10.2 percent of all U.S. drivers were stopped by police in 2011. However, the percentages varied depending on the race and ethnicity of the driver — 12.8 percent of all black or African-American drivers were stopped that year, compared with 10.4 percent of Hispanic or Latino drivers and 9.8 percent of white drivers.

    There appears to be a similar disparity in Ferguson. According to the DOJ report, 85 percent of traffic stops in the city over the past two years involved African-Americans; 67 percent of residents are black. (It’s hard to make a direct comparison with the national data because we don’t know the racial demographics of the city’s driving population and because some of those traffic stops may have involved drivers from outside the city.) . . . .
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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    So...

    I don't understand what you're getting at here.
    You might gain some insight if you see it from the other side.

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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Yes, I can give you a specific example of that. It happened to a person named me. But you can't prove that I wasn't arrested solely because of my race. I could have been arrested a number of times (this was over a decade ago) but never was. If you don't think that me being middle class and white played a role in it, that's your choice, but I think you're ignoring the evidence. I grew up in Minneapolis, where there's this: racial disparity in low level arrests.

    The Minneapolis Police Department’s own data, as reported to the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Uniform Crime Reporting, reveals that between 2004 and 2012, an African American individual was, on average:

    11.5 times more likely to be arrested than a white individual for marijuana possession;
    8.86 times more likely to be arrested than a white individual for disorderly conduct;
    7.54 times more likely to be arrested than a white individual for vagrancy; and
    16.39 times more likely to be arrested than a white juvenile for curfew/loitering
    That's racist, right?
    So the politically correct thing to do is to stop enforcing these laws in predominately black communities?

    I thought that was tried and cries arose from the communities to return the police patrols and enforcement to their communities.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Fergu

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Justice report finds systematic discrimination against African Americans in Ferguson - CNN.com



    Was there any chance whatsoever Holder would have accepted a conclusion that said anything differently?
    Do you think the investigators are lying?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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