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Nilly said:
Exactly. Yet we still accept it as true, and would give strange looks to someone who suggested it was the 'hand of god'.

Same is true for evolution. *gasp*
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My point is that we dont even know enough to have a workable theory on it. We kind of know how it works from studying it on earth, and to a lesser extent in space-but no scientist will tell you how it works, just that it exists.
 
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Deuce said:
Gravity is also a theory.
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Actually its technically a law...laws were intended to apply to all places at all times universally, and were named by Newton.

Since science no longer believes that (and in the case of gravity has no idea how it works) its more recently called a theory.

So the laws are still called laws, but more recently everything is called a theory.
 
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US Conservative said:
My point is that we dont even know enough to have a workable theory on it. We kind of know how it works from studying it on earth, and to a lesser extent in space-but no scientist will tell you how it works, just that it exists.
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We do.

Anyway, we still know it's real, because we observe the effects of gravity. Likewise, we know evolution is real because we observe the effects of it. There may be a few things we can find more about, but that doesn't mean that the 'theory' isn't established fact. Again, bringing things back to Carson, that he is able to dismiss evolution when being so versed (apparently) in the scientific method, is indicative of an inability to consider the facts when making a decision.
 
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Nilly said:
We do.

Anyway, we still know it's real, because we observe the effects of gravity. Likewise, we know evolution is real because we observe the effects of it. There may be a few things we can find more about, but that doesn't mean that the 'theory' isn't established fact. Again, bringing things back to Carson, that he is able to dismiss evolution when being so versed (apparently) in the scientific method, is indicative of an inability to consider the facts when making a decision.
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We dont know, beyond what we can observe empirically. No scientist will claim otherwise.

And for Carson, he happens to be one of the leading pediatric neurosurgeons on earth (there aren't many). Do you know what surgeons do? All they DO is make important often life or death decisions and then execute with their own hands. They also have absolute responsibility for a persons life at all stages-everyone answers to them and they bear the responsibility if something goes wrong-so they run a VERY tight ship. I work with surgeons who moonlight as intensivists in the ICU. Thats what they do for OT. :shock:
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
You know the nut job Lyndon Larouche runs as a Democrat every presidential election and gets no support from the Democratic base because he is a total nut job. Yet, a lunatic like Ben Carson polls 2nd or 3rd among Republican candidates. Seriously, the guy's quotes are a treasure trove of insanity.

Take your pick he is a nut: Ben Carson | Right Wing Watch
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a canidate with that much open and in front bigotry could never win in america today, its really very simply
 
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OrphanSlug said:
Unsure Ben Carson can pull of a general election, but might do well within the Republican Party. In a general election too many independents would disagree with Carson on some social issues, and the left would give him all sorts of grief on his stance that Evolution is "an absurd myth."
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Allow me to help you with your uncertainty: not a snowball's chance.....
 
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Apparently, he is against both gay marriage and legalizing pot plus he is a creationist.

In other words, he is a dinosaur.

NEXT!!!
 
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AGENT J said:
1.) no i actually didnt :shrug:
2.) correct, thank you for pointing this out proving your claim 100% wrong. no where in there did i say it would TAKE a great candidate to overcome race based on obama, i simply said a great candidate wouldn't be affected by race because of obama lol thanks for proving yourself wrong.

and i stand by that, race wont be a factor for any candidate based on obama
your claim fails and facts win again
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Weasel words dancing on a pin - so entertaining.
 
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CanadaJohn said:
Weasel words dancing on a pin - so entertaining.
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I agree watching your inability to back up your claim and it being proved wrong is VERY entertaining. Please dont stop!
 
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AGENT J said:
I agree watching your inability to back up your claim and it being proved wrong is VERY entertaining. Please dont stop!
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I agree, watching you try to weasel and squirm away from your own words is quite entertaining.
 
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CanadaJohn said:
I agree, watching you try to weasel and squirm away from your own words is quite entertaining.
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thank you for continuing to doubled down and the mentally inane claim you made
you can post what ever you like but my own words proved your claim 100% wrong and destroyed it lol
as usual your post fails and facts win again
 
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DA60 said:
Apparently, he is against both gay marriage and legalizing pot plus he is a creationist.

In other words, he is a dinosaur.

NEXT!!!
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With all of these politicians who are apparently in favor of legalizing pot, why is it that we don't seem to be any further along with making that happen?
 
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mbig said:
It's hardly "arrogant".
One doesn't need a PhD to understand the overwhelming evidences for evolution, tho your assertion betrays You Don't understand it.

Ben Carson can be a fabulous Aircraft Mechanic without knowing squat about Aerodynamics.
And That's analogous to where he IS on the scale.

The problem is he was Indoctrinated as/is a 7-11 Adventist and remained in willing denial his whole life on several simple scientific subjects.

To believe in YEC you have to deny No less than a Dozen simple-to-understand Sciences, even beyond Biological ones. ie, dendochronology/Tree-Ring-Dating, which even simpletons Are capable of.

THAT is what's so troubling, the degree of Compartmentalization/Sociopathy it takes for someone who had his education, to hold views which are Epically in Denial.
One cannot trust someone who can cut out Reality to that degree.
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Is managing science part of the President's job description?
 
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tres borrachos said:
With all of these politicians who are apparently in favor of legalizing pot, why is it that we don't seem to be any further along with making that happen?
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FYI, in the last 15 years more states have either decriminalized or legalized pot than the previous 100 years. Hell 3 states already have completely legal use of pot. Another 10 states have decriminalized it and many more have legal marijuana use for medical patients. It doesn't sound like much until you realize that 40 years ago there was mandatory sentencing for simple pot possession. The claim that we aren't "further" along is unequivocally false.
 
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Hatuey said:
FYI, in the last 15 years more states have either decriminalized or legalized pot than the previous 100 years. Hell 3 states already have completely legal use of pot. Another 10 states have decriminalized it and many more have legal marijuana use for medical patients. It doesn't sound like much until you realize that 40 years ago there was mandatory sentencing for simple pot possession. The claim that we aren't "further" along is unequivocally false.
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The President of the United States doesn't change the rules in the states, does he? No, he doesn't. So Ben Carson as President of the United States having an opinion on marijuana legalization isn't relevant because of all of the politicians in Washington DC and apparently in the White House who supposedly hold a different opinion that Dr. Carson, we are no further along.

So no, it wasn't unequivocally false. The poster I responded to wasn't talking about Dr. Ben Carson running for governor of a state.

I also wasn't talking about medical marijuana and what was happening 40 years ago. I was talking about the presumption that he's out of sync with other politicians because he does NOT support the legalization of marijuana.
 
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And yet another nutjob quote by Carson for this morning:

During a discussion of same-sex marriage, CNN's Chris Cuomo asked the potential 2016 Republican presidential contender whether he thought being gay was a choice. When Carson replied "absolutely," Cuomo asked him to explain.

"Because a lot of people who go into prison, go into prison straight -- and when they come out they're gay," Carson said on "New Day." "So, did something happen while they were in there? Ask yourself that question."
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Ben Carson: People Choose To Be Gay, And Prison Proves It

And this guy is polling 2nd to 3rd among Republican Primary voters. As I stated earlier it would be like Lyndon Larouche polling 2nd among Democratic Primary voters. When are all these nut job primary voters in the GOP going to go ahead and die off or get on some meds. Its a flipping clown show every 4 years anymore.
 
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SenorXm/Sirius said:
And there's still Republican apologists who say the GOP hasn't been hijacked by the far right in the party. They still say the current GOP is a moderate party.
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Every election its just more and more extreme. Here in the KC area Brownback and his cronies have decimated the moderates in the GOP in state government.
 
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tres borrachos said:
The President of the United States doesn't change the rules in the states, does he?
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He doesn't, that's why your statement is simply wrong. Politicians who do change rules in the states have legalized or decriminalized marijuana. That's why saying we're no closer to legalization is false. Your statement is like saying we're not closer to gay marriage if the federal government doesn't recognize it. Not only does it completely ignore the legalization process, it's absolutely fallacious. The legalization of marijuana would have been unthinkable in the 1980s. Today, we have various states decriminalizing it and legalizing it, as well as several bills introduced to legalize it in congress. THAT is what makes your "no closer" to legalizing it statement false.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
Every election its just more and more extreme. Here in the KC area Brownback and his cronies have decimated the moderates in the GOP in state government.
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I know. I was once a moderate Republican. I left. Maybe I should have stayed and fought to get the GOP back, but I saw no hope for many years. The right is firmly in control of the GOP, both in the media and the party itself.
 
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Grant said:
There seems to be those who believe that a Community Organizer is more worthy of the Presidency than a renowned Neurosurgeon. Or that Rev. Wrights form of Christian influence on BHO was minor when compared to the Christianity of Dr.Carsons.
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If this is somehow actually attempting to counter my post you quoted, you're being amazingly dishonest by misrepresenting comments about political experience to being about "community organizer". Not to mention your blatant strawmanning by arguing about "worthiness" when my post was about "experience".

No, when it comes to experience, a "Community Organizer" is no more related to the Presdient of the United States of American than a Neurosurgeon. HOWEVER, seven years as a state Senator and three years as a US Senator absolutely and unquestionbaly is more experience related to the POTUS than someone who has zero experience in government.

As to the entire hogwash about "religion", to act like many on the right didn't make a GIANT deal out of Obama's connections with Reverend Wright and his potential religious views (be it Wright or be it as a supposed "Muslim") during the campaign is laughable. Did the left by and large not have an issue with it? Absolutely. Just like the right has no issue with Carson's now and is balking at the audacity of people bringing up his religious beliefs as some kind of negative.
 
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Anagram said:
Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee | Fox News



I didn't really expect Carson to run. But from the look of this it sounds like he is actually extremely likely to make the attempt. I guess that makes sense considering he's hovering in 2nd or 3rd place in the polls though. I still find it extremely unlikely he'll win the nomination with his lack of political and campaign experience.
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Good... I'm more than happy he's seriously looking at making a run.
 
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AGENT J said:
thank you for continuing to doubled down and the mentally inane claim you made
you can post what ever you like but my own words proved your claim 100% wrong and destroyed it lol
as usual your post fails and facts win again
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No, thank you - for continuing to double down and try to weasel and squirm away from your own words. Facts are facts and posters here can see your pretzels and back flips. They're reminded of a salmon landed and cast to the floor of the boat flipping and flopping around, desperate trying to escape, and not realizing it's over. It's over AJ, you lost - accept it like a man, if you can.
 
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