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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    no

    his out in front bigotry will keep him from even being the nominee
    he would basically have to backpedal on everything he has ever said about equal rights, Muslims and his statments that there is widespread persecution of christian americans in america
    Demonstrate his "bigotry"
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    What a waste of time and money . . . . he has ZERO chance of being president

    I honestly hope that MULTIPLE people who can actually get elected run
    i dont care what party they claim, even though to get elected they will have to claim republican or democrat, which also sucks and is another issue.
    That is just stupid. Not only does he have a definite, finite if small, chance of winning, he is young yet and the first time running is usually about learning the system and assembling a team and laying the groundwork and making the mistakes so later runs are more likely to succeed. He is only 63 and looks to be in good health so no reason he cannot run 2 or 3 more times. I am not going to support him nor vote for him, but to suggest because I don't support him his run would be a waste of time and money would be really, painfully stupid.
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Of course I am, and you are free to whine about him. Last I heard, Palin, Cain, and Bachmann weren't running, but Hillary might, and her chances are slipping away. Im loving it.
    you are free to call it what you want but Im simply pointing out the fact its a waste of time and money if the goal is to be president because he has zero chance of winning. lol
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That's too bad actually. I really like the man a lot - I think he's a good man, and he's a smart man. The problem with him is he's not a politician. That's actually part of the reason I like him. I hate to see good people get ruined by politics.

    When he comes to NH, I'll go to see him and listen to him. I can't see myself voting for him in the primary, but I look forward to getting to meet him.

    I think though he'll certainly add something to the race. I'd prefer not to sit here for the next 12 months waiting for Jeb Bush to get handed the nomination. Any and all comers in the race make it interesting.
    I agree - as you know, I really like Jeb Bush and expect him to make it official soon and if he does he'll be the next President. But a vigorous and bruising primary fight is important for him too - he'll need to be battle tested before he gets the liberal media beating him up in a match up against their party candidate. And with Dr. Carson, I think you'll get a battle of ideas and policy positions rather than the fake name calling and purity tests you'll get from the likes of Cruz and Santorum etc. I keep wavering on whom I'd like to see as a Bush running mate - there are so many good choices - Dr. Carson would be another one from a non-political perspective - I'm not sure what pull he'd have in toss up states.
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It would not be easy, the media and left would pound him the entire time. But then again, who does the left have right now?
    It's not the left, but his opponents.

    I don't think he is electable frankly. Another Herman Cain perhaps, and maybe VP material but I doubt the nation will want another black so soon after Obama. The man has **** in those conrflakes
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Dr. Carson is a fine man with a lot of sane, reasonable positions on serious issues. He'd likely be a fine President.

    That said, and I'm going to get slammed for saying this, but the current occupant of the White House has made it virtually if not literally impossible for another black person to succeed to the office of the Presidency anytime soon. Had President Obama not been seen and considered to be a disaster in the office, things would be different but sadly that's not so. Just as Geraldine Ferraro made it impossible for another woman to get on the ticket, let alone succeed for over 20 years, Obama will do the same.
    I dunno. I think most people can see that how a person does as president has exactly jack and **** to do with their skin pigmentation. Maybe in Canada it would be an issue, but the US is a little more advanced.
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    you are free to call it what you want but Im simply pointing out the fact its a waste of time and money if the goal is to be president because he has zero chance of winning. lol
    Even if he didn't win, his presence in the primaries would strengthen the party, and produce the strongest candidate possible.

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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Even if he didn't win, his presence in the primaries would strengthen the party, and produce the strongest candidate possible.
    What blacks do the Democrats have in the wings?

    Rice?
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is just stupid. Not only does he have a definite, finite if small, chance of winning, he is young yet and the first time running is usually about learning the system and assembling a team and laying the groundwork and making the mistakes so later runs are more likely to succeed. He is only 63 and looks to be in good health so no reason he cannot run 2 or 3 more times. I am not going to support him nor vote for him, but to suggest because I don't support him his run would be a waste of time and money would be really, painfully stupid.
    you are free to think what ever you like
    he has no chance of winning the presidency
    and if the goal is being president its a waste of time and money

    also your assumption is 100% wrong, nothing in my post is based on "whether I personally support him" they are just based on reality. I do agree though any views based on that would be stupid, good thing that has nothing to do with my post
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I agree - as you know, I really like Jeb Bush and expect him to make it official soon and if he does he'll be the next President. But a vigorous and bruising primary fight is important for him too - he'll need to be battle tested before he gets the liberal media beating him up in a match up against their party candidate. And with Dr. Carson, I think you'll get a battle of ideas and policy positions rather than the fake name calling and purity tests you'll get from the likes of Cruz and Santorum etc. I keep wavering on whom I'd like to see as a Bush running mate - there are so many good choices - Dr. Carson would be another one from a non-political perspective - I'm not sure what pull he'd have in toss up states.
    Yeah, I like to see when they're in the primaries, how they engage with each other, how they learn to handle the tough questions, how they raise money, how they "work a crowd", and really important to me is how they debate. Dr. Carson is a very fresh young face, quite different than your typical politician. It will be interesting to see how he does in a pool of professional politicians. And he's got one hell of a unique personal story. The guy separated conjoined twins, for crying out loud.

    I think he's from Michigan but I don't see him delivering Michigan to the GOP.
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