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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    With all of these politicians who are apparently in favor of legalizing pot, why is it that we don't seem to be any further along with making that happen?
    FYI, in the last 15 years more states have either decriminalized or legalized pot than the previous 100 years. Hell 3 states already have completely legal use of pot. Another 10 states have decriminalized it and many more have legal marijuana use for medical patients. It doesn't sound like much until you realize that 40 years ago there was mandatory sentencing for simple pot possession. The claim that we aren't "further" along is unequivocally false.
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    FYI, in the last 15 years more states have either decriminalized or legalized pot than the previous 100 years. Hell 3 states already have completely legal use of pot. Another 10 states have decriminalized it and many more have legal marijuana use for medical patients. It doesn't sound like much until you realize that 40 years ago there was mandatory sentencing for simple pot possession. The claim that we aren't "further" along is unequivocally false.
    The President of the United States doesn't change the rules in the states, does he? No, he doesn't. So Ben Carson as President of the United States having an opinion on marijuana legalization isn't relevant because of all of the politicians in Washington DC and apparently in the White House who supposedly hold a different opinion that Dr. Carson, we are no further along.

    So no, it wasn't unequivocally false. The poster I responded to wasn't talking about Dr. Ben Carson running for governor of a state.

    I also wasn't talking about medical marijuana and what was happening 40 years ago. I was talking about the presumption that he's out of sync with other politicians because he does NOT support the legalization of marijuana.
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    And yet another nutjob quote by Carson for this morning:

    During a discussion of same-sex marriage, CNN's Chris Cuomo asked the potential 2016 Republican presidential contender whether he thought being gay was a choice. When Carson replied "absolutely," Cuomo asked him to explain.

    "Because a lot of people who go into prison, go into prison straight -- and when they come out they're gay," Carson said on "New Day." "So, did something happen while they were in there? Ask yourself that question."
    Ben Carson: People Choose To Be Gay, And Prison Proves It

    And this guy is polling 2nd to 3rd among Republican Primary voters. As I stated earlier it would be like Lyndon Larouche polling 2nd among Democratic Primary voters. When are all these nut job primary voters in the GOP going to go ahead and die off or get on some meds. Its a flipping clown show every 4 years anymore.
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    And yet another nutjob quote by Carson for this morning:



    Ben Carson: People Choose To Be Gay, And Prison Proves It

    And this guy is polling 2nd to 3rd among Republican Primary voters.
    And there's still Republican apologists who say the GOP hasn't been hijacked by the far right in the party. They still say the current GOP is a moderate party.
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    And there's still Republican apologists who say the GOP hasn't been hijacked by the far right in the party. They still say the current GOP is a moderate party.
    Every election its just more and more extreme. Here in the KC area Brownback and his cronies have decimated the moderates in the GOP in state government.
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The President of the United States doesn't change the rules in the states, does he?
    He doesn't, that's why your statement is simply wrong. Politicians who do change rules in the states have legalized or decriminalized marijuana. That's why saying we're no closer to legalization is false. Your statement is like saying we're not closer to gay marriage if the federal government doesn't recognize it. Not only does it completely ignore the legalization process, it's absolutely fallacious. The legalization of marijuana would have been unthinkable in the 1980s. Today, we have various states decriminalizing it and legalizing it, as well as several bills introduced to legalize it in congress. THAT is what makes your "no closer" to legalizing it statement false.
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Every election its just more and more extreme. Here in the KC area Brownback and his cronies have decimated the moderates in the GOP in state government.
    I know. I was once a moderate Republican. I left. Maybe I should have stayed and fought to get the GOP back, but I saw no hope for many years. The right is firmly in control of the GOP, both in the media and the party itself.
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There seems to be those who believe that a Community Organizer is more worthy of the Presidency than a renowned Neurosurgeon. Or that Rev. Wrights form of Christian influence on BHO was minor when compared to the Christianity of Dr.Carsons.
    If this is somehow actually attempting to counter my post you quoted, you're being amazingly dishonest by misrepresenting comments about political experience to being about "community organizer". Not to mention your blatant strawmanning by arguing about "worthiness" when my post was about "experience".

    No, when it comes to experience, a "Community Organizer" is no more related to the Presdient of the United States of American than a Neurosurgeon. HOWEVER, seven years as a state Senator and three years as a US Senator absolutely and unquestionbaly is more experience related to the POTUS than someone who has zero experience in government.

    As to the entire hogwash about "religion", to act like many on the right didn't make a GIANT deal out of Obama's connections with Reverend Wright and his potential religious views (be it Wright or be it as a supposed "Muslim") during the campaign is laughable. Did the left by and large not have an issue with it? Absolutely. Just like the right has no issue with Carson's now and is balking at the audacity of people bringing up his religious beliefs as some kind of negative.
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

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    Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee | Fox News



    I didn't really expect Carson to run. But from the look of this it sounds like he is actually extremely likely to make the attempt. I guess that makes sense considering he's hovering in 2nd or 3rd place in the polls though. I still find it extremely unlikely he'll win the nomination with his lack of political and campaign experience.
    Good... I'm more than happy he's seriously looking at making a run.
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    Re: Ben Carson forms presidential exploratory committee

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    thank you for continuing to doubled down and the mentally inane claim you made
    you can post what ever you like but my own words proved your claim 100% wrong and destroyed it lol
    as usual your post fails and facts win again
    No, thank you - for continuing to double down and try to weasel and squirm away from your own words. Facts are facts and posters here can see your pretzels and back flips. They're reminded of a salmon landed and cast to the floor of the boat flipping and flopping around, desperate trying to escape, and not realizing it's over. It's over AJ, you lost - accept it like a man, if you can.
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