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Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

You said that she wouldn't need one for official business (aides and all that). She obviously did, just wanted it off the books.

Possibly, but I'm not going to say she was trying to do official business of the books until I know what she said when, and to whom.
 
Is it my imagination, or does it seem like since Obama took office that democrats have acted like the rules no longer apply to them? They seem to defy the law at will and don't give a damn who knows.

This is a practice that was going on under the Bush Administration as well. This is a systemic problem and it is unacceptable it has been going on this long.
 
From my understanding the "Federal Records Act" (AKA, 44 U.S.C. Chapter 33) was updated by this Act which was signed in 2014.
I am talking about that act. But this is the provision im talking to:"It also requires official government business done via personal email to be forwarded to an official government records system." House passes bills on IG audits, presidential records | TheHill


From what I read, no such action took place.
"On November 26, 2014, President Obama signed into law the Presidential and Federal Records Act Amendments of 2014. This new law modernizes records management by focusing on electronic records, and complements efforts by the US National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) and the Office of Management and Budget to implement the President’s 2011 Memorandum on Managing Government Records. Major updates to the Presidential and Federal Records Acts include:
Strengthening the Federal Records Act by expanding the definition of Federal records to clearly include electronic records. This is the first change to the definition of a Federal record since the enactment of the act in 1950."
National Archives Welcomes Presidential and Federal Records Act Amendments of 2014

Can you point to this amendment Bill Clinton signed into law?

First answer this....why all the hubbub about Lois Lerner's emails being lost...in 2013?
 
Possibly, but I'm not going to say she was trying to do official business of the books until I know what she said when, and to whom.

Well, according to all the breaking news, that's exactly what she did.
 
First answer this....why all the hubbub about Lois Lerner's emails being lost...in 2013?

If you would answer my question I would appreciate it. And because specific e-mails were pertinent to a congressional investigation, and also because it was from the official IRS e-mails and not from a personal email.

But can you point to this amendment Bill Clinton signed into law?
 
Hilary Clinton stepped down from Secretary of State in 2013. The Federal Records Act amendment that requires personal emails to be preserved on department servers did not become law until late November 2014...

Nope. Not true. The 1950 Act still requires that they be preserved.
 
You said that she wouldn't need one for official business (aides and all that). She obviously did, just wanted it off the books.

which is why she released 55,000 pages of emails upon request.
 
and by the way -not exactly a secret. Anyone who emailed her knew she was using a personal address.
 
which is why she released 55,000 pages of emails upon request.

There's a good reason that's not sufficient. Preserved by the government, ALL emails are preserved and available for subpoena. Preserved by the individual, good chance editing and deletion is involved.

Btw, 55K pages isn't the large number of emails you would think. They print them out on paper with includes attachments in hex code. Insert a small image in an email and do a print and you get all the header text, the auth strings and a hundred pages of hex for the image.
 
There's a good reason that's not sufficient. Preserved by the government, ALL emails are preserved and available for subpoena. Preserved by the individual, good chance editing and deletion is involved.

Btw, 55K pages isn't the large number of emails you would think. They print them out on paper with includes attachments in hex code. Insert a small image in an email and do a print and you get all the header text, the auth strings and a hundred pages of hex for the image.

Do you have any proof she isn't preserving her emails?
 
This is a practice that was going on under the Bush Administration as well. This is a systemic problem and it is unacceptable it has been going on this long.

Lol...

Name the Bush appointee that purposefully used a private Email account so he or she could stay under the radar.

This is just more corrupt , low life Democrat obstruction.
 
Lol...

Name the Bush appointee that purposefully used a private Email account so he or she could stay under the radar.

This is just more corrupt , low life Democrat obstruction.

You're right Fenton....And all the demo's have is deflection, and childish "Bush did it too" crap to counter....I'd be happy to see her in cuffs.
 
If you would answer my question I would appreciate it. And because specific e-mails were pertinent to a congressional investigation, and also because it was from the official IRS e-mails and not from a personal email.

But can you point to this amendment Bill Clinton signed into law?

First, here's the Federal Records act of 1950....this describes what must be recorded.

The Act defines a federal record without respect to format. Records include all books, papers, maps, photographs, machine-readable materials, or other documentary materials, regardless of physical form or characteristics, made or received by an agency of the government under federal law or in connection with the transaction of public business and preserved or appropriate for preservation by that agency as evidence of the organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, operations, or other activities of the government or because of the informational value of data in them.
 
I'm sorry, but it takes a special kind of moron to not know that you should not be corresponding by email on behalf of the United States of America from a ****ing personal email account.
 
First, here's the Federal Records act of 1950....this describes what must be recorded.

Here is the definition original definition:
"As used in this chapter, ‘records’ includes all books, papers,
maps, photographs, machine readable materials, or other documentary
materials, regardless of physical form or characteristics, made
or received by an agency of the United States Government under
Federal law or in connection with the transaction of public business
and preserved or appropriate for preservation by that agency or its
legitimate successor as evidence of the organization, functions, policies,
decisions, procedures, operations, or other activities of the
Government or because of the informational value of data in them.
Library and museum material made or acquired and preserved
solely for reference or exhibition purposes, extra copies of documents
preserved only for convenience of reference, and stocks of
publications and of processed documents are not included."

Here is it to amended. It clearly defines electronic storage, and digital stored.
"(a) RECORDS DEFINED.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—As used in this chapter, the term ‘records’—
(A) includes all recorded information, regardless of form
or characteristics, made or received by a Federal agency
under Federal law or in connection with the transaction of
public business and preserved or appropriate for preservation
by that agency or its legitimate successor as evidence
of the organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures,
operations, or other activities of the United States
Government or because of the informational value of data
in them; and
(2) RECORDED INFORMATION DEFINED.—For purposes of paragraph
(1), the term ‘recorded information’ includes all traditional
forms of records, regardless of physical form or characteristics,
including information created, manipulated, communicated,
or stored in digital or electronic form."


Its also very important to note the private materials the National Archives has the authority to acquisite.
Under the oringinal act it states: "ø§ 2111. Material accepted for deposit¿
øWhen the Archivist considers it to be in the public interest he
may accept for deposit—¿
ø(1) the papers and other historical materials of a President
or former President of the United States, or other official or
former official of the Government, and other papers relating to
and contemporary with a President or former President of the
United States, subject to restrictions agreeable to the Archivist
as to their use; and¿
ø(2) documents, including motion-picture films, still pictures,
and sound recordings, from private sources that are approVerDate
Mar 15 2010 02:20 Jul 29, 2014 Jkt 039010 PO 00000 Frm 00016 Fmt 6659 Sfmt 6602 E:\HR\OC\SR218.XXX SR218
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priate for preservation by the Government as evidence of its
organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, and
transactions.¿
øThis section shall not apply in the case of any Presidential
records which are subject to the provisions of chapter 22 of this
title.¿ "

Now under the revised portion it includes private email accounts:
"§ 2111. Material accepted for deposit
(a) IN GENERAL.—When the Archivist considers it to be in the
public interest the Archivist may accept for deposit—
(1) the papers and other historical materials of a President or
former President of the United States, or other official or former
official of the Government, and other papers relating to and
contemporary with a President or former President of the
United States, subject to restrictions agreeable to the Archivist
as to their use; and
(2) recorded information (as such term is defined in section
3301(a)(2) of this title) from private sources that are appropriate
for preservation by the Government as evidence of its organization,
functions, policies, decisions, procedures, and transactions.
"

"3301(a)(2)" is what defined recorded information above. It now reads that the National Archives has the right to acquire information they deem necessary from private email accounts.
It all can be read here: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CRPT-113srpt218/pdf/CRPT-113srpt218.pdf
 
I'm sorry, but it takes a special kind of moron to not know that you should not be corresponding by email on behalf of the United States of America from a ****ing personal email account.

Actually when she was in office, you legally could.
 
Here is the definition original definition:
"As used in this chapter, ‘records’ includes all books, papers,
maps, photographs, machine readable materials, or other documentary
materials, regardless of physical form or characteristics, made
or received by an agency of the United States Government under
Federal law or in connection with the transaction of public business
and preserved or appropriate for preservation by that agency or its
legitimate successor as evidence of the organization, functions, policies,
decisions, procedures, operations, or other activities
of the
Government or because of the informational value of data in them.

Library and museum material made or acquired and preserved
solely for reference or exhibition purposes, extra copies of documents
preserved only for convenience of reference, and stocks of
publications and of processed documents are not included."

This chapter spells it all out. Further, if any of what she communicated on a private account was classified information, she's violated some other significant laws.
 
This whole issue is just further evidence that Hillary has the integrity of a slug. She allowed Bill to wipe his slut and bimbo stained shoes all over her face like she was a 'stand by her mat' doormat. Obviously she either didn't care OR she allowed him to do it, because she knew she had to keep her yap shut and ride Bills coattails to achieve her political ambitions. Either way, she is seriously psychologically weak or just totally screwed up......and liberals want that in the WH.
 
Actually when she was in office, you legally could.

I think Bill probably gave her the idea, knowing who she was working for.

The same kind of advice he gave her that led to Susan Rice lying about a internet video on all those Sunday morning shows instead of her.

Don't put yourself in a position where you're going to have to lie for this administration.

Publicly that is.

She knew what she was involved in, still had Presidential aspirations, but had to make sure that nothing could be tied back to her directly.

So she had to weigh the consequences of being caught using a personal Email account ( which looks really bad ) to the consequences of a Congressional committee pulling up damming Emails that she could not defend against.

If the Benghazi investigation was losing steam this gave it legs from hell.
 
Clinton had no official State Dept. email address - CNN.com



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/u...il-at-state-department-raises-flags.html?_r=0



Wow. She created a private domain to house her email on the first day of her confirmation hearings in 2009, and never had an official federal email account.
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How is it that nobody at the federal level thought to ask why everything that went to Clinton was off the books?

Ruh-roh. It's not THAT big a deal, really, since her emails are all on a domain, which are being reviewed for retention with federal records. But it plays into the shady image that surfaced with that box of missing billing records years ago. Still, maybe she didn't know. It's a recent law. Someone at the State's office should have told her and set her up on a govt email account automatically. The fact that an email address for her at the State agency didn't even exist means that that didn't happen. Who knows? But the emails are being reviewed (which creates a lot of work for the minions!) and transferred over.
 
Ruh-roh. It's not THAT big a deal, really, since her emails are all on a domain, which are being reviewed for retention with federal records. But it plays into the shady image that surfaced with that box of missing billing records years ago. Still, maybe she didn't know. It's a recent law. Someone at the State's office should have told her and set her up on a govt email account automatically. The fact that an email address for her at the State agency didn't even exist means that that didn't happen. Who knows? But the emails are being reviewed (which creates a lot of work for the minions!) and transferred over.
Who is reviewing them?
 
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