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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm sorry, but it takes a special kind of moron to not know that you should not be corresponding by email on behalf of the United States of America from a ****ing personal email account.
    So Colin Powell was a "special kind of moron"?

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    This whole issue is just further evidence that Hillary has the integrity of a slug. She allowed Bill to wipe his slut and bimbo stained shoes all over her face like she was a 'stand by her mat' doormat. Obviously she either didn't care OR she allowed him to do it, because she knew she had to keep her yap shut and ride Bills coattails to achieve her political ambitions. Either way, she is seriously psychologically weak or just totally screwed up......and liberals want that in the WH.
    Honestly? this kind of language makes me think you are a sexist asshole lout.

    But I'm sure that's just me.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Clinton had no official State Dept. email address - CNN.com



    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/us...lags.html?_r=0



    Wow. She created a private domain to house her email on the first day of her confirmation hearings in 2009, and never had an official federal email account.


    How is it that nobody at the federal level thought to ask why everything that went to Clinton was off the books?
    Hmmm...

    Has anyone checked up on the email Obama uses? Could be she was just following the example of her boss, don't you think?


    In any case, I don't think this is something that NOBODY knew about. Somebody allowed this to happen for so long...and somebody told them to allow it. But all of this isn't surprising, given all the shenanigans this Obama Presidency has produced.

    Bottom line, this is another blow to the Presidential run she won't announce. I don't think she'll EVER make that announcement.
    TANSTAAFL

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Why one earth would you want the head of a federal department to have a publicly-known email address?

    clinton@state.gov would be a worthless email address.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Honestly? this kind of language makes me think you are a sexist asshole lout.

    But I'm sure that's just me.
    How else do you excuse her behavior? Once OK, a mistake, twice, she really loves him, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, etc etc etc........
    Last edited by Chainsaw; 03-03-15 at 11:10 PM.
    The Gruber-crat is strong in this one!

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    This chapter spells it all out.
    no it doesnt, especially when you only responded to half of my post.
    1.)That defines what a record is. Ok. Thats great. That simply just a definition. Now what can be done with that definition? The answer to that question, which actually gives the act power is the powers it gives.
    2.)The powers it gives is what you left out:
    Under the original act:
    "§ 2111. Material accepted for deposit
    When the Archivist considers it to be in the public interest he may accept for deposit—
    (1) the papers and other historical materials of a President or former President of the United States, or other official or former official of the Government, and other papers relating to and contemporary with a President or former President of the United States, subject to restrictions agreeable to the Archivist as to their use; and
    (2) documents, including motion-picture films, still pictures, and sound recordings, from private sources that are appropriate for preservation by the Government as evidence of its organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, and transactions."

    --This is what key right here is "(2)". No where does it state the archivist has the power to acuqisit if its "regardless of physical form or characteristics". Why does it not state that? Because no where in either of those sections does it use the world "records". Nowhere does it give the archivist any power to acquisit all public documents, be them done on a private source or a public source. It just give the archivist the power to acquist papers, docs, motion picture fils, photos, sound recordings from private source. Thats it.

    Now we go to the revised amendment:
    "§ 2111. Material accepted for deposit
    (a) IN GENERAL.—When the Archivist considers it to be in the public interest the Archivist may accept for deposit—
    (1) the papers and other historical materials of a President or former President of the United States, or other official or former official of the Government, and other papers relating to and contemporary with a President or former President of the United States, subject to restrictions agreeable to the Archivist as to their use; and
    (2) recorded information (as such term is defined in section 3301(a)(2) of this title) from private sources that are appropriate for preservation by the Government as evidence of its organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, and transactions.
    --The key here is in "(2)" of the amended section above. What does it say? Essentially the Archivist has the power to obtain all traditional forms of records, regardless of physical form or characteristics, including information created, manipulated, communicated, or stored in digital or electronic form.". Why does it say that? Because (2) uses the word "recorded information". And what does the definition section of the bill tell us: "(2) RECORDED INFORMATION DEFINED.—For purposes of paragraph (1), the term ‘recorded information’ includes all traditional forms of records, regardless of physical form or characteristics, including information created, manipulated, communicated, or stored in digital or electronic form." .
    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CRPT-11...113srpt218.pdf


    Further, if any of what she communicated on a private account was classified information, she's violated some other significant laws.
    No indication she did: State: No Indication that Clinton Used E-mail for Classified Purposes - Bloomberg Politics




    But I'm still interested in this Clinton amendment you said gave credence to your claims, especially when it came to emails. Can you point to this amendment Bill Clinton signed into law?


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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Maybe you should re-read that, and then read the 1950 Act. Nothing I stated is untrue. Because there were no penalties doesn't excuse her.
    Maybe you should.
    First, read the definition section of the orginial bill not with the recent amendments. Look to what it defines records as. Then go to the power it gives the archivist. Does it use the word records?
    Second, red the definition section of the amendments. Read what it defines as "records" and "records recorded". Then go the section where it gives power to the archviist. Does it use the words "records recorded"?

    Need more help? See post #56


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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    I think Bill probably gave her the idea, knowing who she was working for.

    The same kind of advice he gave her that led to Susan Rice lying about a internet video on all those Sunday morning shows instead of her.

    Don't put yourself in a position where you're going to have to lie for this administration.

    Publicly that is.

    She knew what she was involved in, still had Presidential aspirations, but had to make sure that nothing could be tied back to her directly.

    So she had to weigh the consequences of being caught using a personal Email account ( which looks really bad ) to the consequences of a Congressional committee pulling up damming Emails that she could not defend against.

    If the Benghazi investigation was losing steam this gave it legs from hell.
    Im sorry. Its still legal even if you dont like the person.


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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    How else do you excuse her behavior? Once OK, a mistake, twice, she really loves him, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, etc etc etc........
    I have no need to "excuse" her behavior. Why do you?

    How about getting back on topic? in my opinion, this is a meaningless flareup, since everyone who emailed her while she was SOS - or who got an email from her - knew she was using a non-gov email address. So bringing it up now makes no sense. Oh - unless you're playing "gotcha politics"

    What is your comment?

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    So Colin Powell was a "special kind of moron"?
    EXCELLENT POINT, CP was an ardent Obama supporter.
    The Gruber-crat is strong in this one!

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