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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    I'm doing something unusual tonight...watching FoxNews. The Kelly Files, to be specific. They have raised an interesting question: Did Hillary Clinton sign a form OF-109 when she left the State Department?

    Here is an article that explains what that form is and why it is significant.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I'm doing something unusual tonight...watching FoxNews. The Kelly Files, to be specific. They have raised an interesting question: Did Hillary Clinton sign a form OF-109 when she left the State Department?

    Here is an article that explains what that form is and why it is significant.

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    Ahahahaha

    Was just gonna post on this...
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I'm doing something unusual tonight...watching FoxNews. The Kelly Files, to be specific. They have raised an interesting question: Did Hillary Clinton sign a form OF-109 when she left the State Department?

    Here is an article that explains what that form is and why it is significant.

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    Nope, she didn't.

    2 years after leaving she turns over the Emails at her attorney's discretion with no State Department official present.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Nope, she didn't.

    2 years after leaving she turns over the Emails at her attorney's discretion with no State Department official present.
    Well, we don't really know if she did or did not sign that form, but you are correct about WHEN she turned over her documents. But that's the problem. If she signed the document, then she is obviously guilty of deliberately falsifying a government document...and can be charged with committing a felony. If she DIDN'T sign the document, then we need to know why not. This document is something that EVERY State Department employee or official MUST sign.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

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    "Correct" according to whom? You?
    You disagree that most pols in both parties routinely act like hypocrites??
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by maxparrish View Post
    Regurgitation of Democratic spin-master talking points does not make their disingenuous and misleading red herrings any more appealing.

    First, Hillary Clinton is "the only secretary of state known to have conducted all official unclassified government business on a private email address. Years earlier, when emailing was not the ubiquitous practice it is now among high officials, Colin Powell used both a government and a private account. It's a striking departure from the norm for top officials to rely exclusively on private email for official business.".

    Second, Powell took charge of a department that was antiquated and mostly without email systems. He was the one that had a modern email system put into the department, and the first to develop department processes for handling something that was new to staff. As a new process, archiving regulations were not clear and not clarified until 2005, after Powell left. The State Department then updated the Foreign Affairs manual to say that day-to-day operations should be conducted on the authorized system. (Therefore Hillary Clinton was well aware of the requirement).

    Third, Powell is not refusing to turn over emails. The request is for information 10 or more years old, made with an account long closed. He has said he has no problem with recovering ALL email from the old account, working with State to see if any can be recovered.

    Four, in contrast Clinton's staff "negotiated" with her return of emails since August and has refused to give access to her server, and its deleted emails.

    Five, in 2009, the year Clinton became secretary, federal regulations codified that a contemporary transfer to archives is required of personal e-mails used for official business.

    One has to measure the actions by the standards, assumptions, laws and intentions of the respective persons at the time of their service. In that light the Washington Post Fact-Checker gives your regurgitated defense of Hillary 3 Pinocchios, and Polit-Fact Checker gives it a "Mostly False".

    The misleading Democratic spin on Hillary Clinton’s e-mails - The Washington Post
    FACT CHECK: Clinton and Her Emails - US News
    Pretty neat trick - define the relevant population (two people out of dozens of cabinet level WH officials) so you can exclude the White House email scandal of the latter Bush years and MILLIONS of deleted emails. That's relevant, sorry, especially when you're recommending a JAIL term for Hillary over this. That's fine, and we can jail her in the same cell block as Karl Rove and the rest of the Bush WH.

    Besides, as you can tell from what you quoted, I'm conceding wrongdoing on Hillary's part, including that IMO she clearly used a private email server to effectively manage what does and doesn't get released - or delete any that might prove damaging if you prefer. That's relevant and highly damaging. The only thing I get a little tired of is the fact that it's a Clinton involved, so if there's a problem she ought to be arrested, tried, convicted and JAILED!!!! Give me a break. The only people buying that are still worried about BENGHAZI!!!!

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Interesting...

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Just came across this...

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Pretty neat trick - define the relevant population (two people out of dozens of cabinet level WH officials) so you can exclude the White House email scandal of the latter Bush years and MILLIONS of deleted emails. That's relevant, sorry, especially when you're recommending a JAIL term for Hillary over this. That's fine, and we can jail her in the same cell block as Karl Rove and the rest of the Bush WH.

    Besides, as you can tell from what you quoted, I'm conceding wrongdoing on Hillary's part, including that IMO she clearly used a private email server to effectively manage what does and doesn't get released - or delete any that might prove damaging if you prefer. That's relevant and highly damaging. The only thing I get a little tired of is the fact that it's a Clinton involved, so if there's a problem she ought to be arrested, tried, convicted and JAILED!!!! Give me a break. The only people buying that are still worried about BENGHAZI!!!!
    State Department officials including the SOS has to sign a " OF-109" document stating that they turned over all pertinent documents related to their time at the State Department.

    Its signed immediately and the employee has to comply by turning over all documents immediately.

    Not turning over the documents is a felony.

    If HIllary Clinton signed that document then she violated the law.

    If she didn't sign that document then why not. ALL State Department employees have to sign it.

    They also asign a State Department official to help the employee go through the documents to help them determine what belongs to the State department and what can be deleted or taken with them.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Well, we don't really know if she did or did not sign that form, but you are correct about WHEN she turned over her documents. But that's the problem. If she signed the document, then she is obviously guilty of deliberately falsifying a government document...and can be charged with committing a felony. If she DIDN'T sign the document, then we need to know why not. This document is something that EVERY State Department employee or official MUST sign.
    I wonder if she can brush this off by blaming her subordinates? If its true, I dont think she can.

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