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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Powell set up a private email server for the purpose of circumventing FOIA and Oversight committee request and then went on to lie about it ?

    So 100 percent of his Emails went through a private email server ?
    I have no idea if it was 100%, but I've read nowhere that he had a .gov email address and he's turned over ZERO of those private emails.

    Colin Powell says he doesn

    And I like how you attribute bad motives to Clinton, but ignore Powell and the Bush WH doing the exact same thing, only with the Bush WH millions, as many as 21 million, were permanently deleted.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    LOL, I guess her trial can start right after they convict and jail Powell for the same offense, only he's turned over ZERO of his emails, so his prosecution should be quick and easy. And then we can move on to the Bush WH which routinely used RNC servers, and the administrators there expertly and permanently deleted millions of WH emails that weren't ever recovered and to my knowledge none of which were turned over to the archivist. So after we get a couple dozen or more Bush era people jailed, we can start with Obama appointees.

    This is the problem many people have explained about the Clintons. There really IS an issue here, but the problem is her detractors blow up any problem into a jailable, or impeachable offense (whatever remedy suits them at the moment) and so her defenders have to pretend that there isn't any problem at all. So instead of discussing the actual issues, we've got most of the country sitting on pretty untenable positions JAIL!@!!! or She's INNOCENT!!! CONSPIRACY!!!

    The truth is she probably didn't break any law by using a private email account, and she did turn over her records (at least no one has proved she didn't) satisfying the record keeping laws, which have no time frame specified. And she didn't do anything more or less illegal than her predecessors in her position. But she didn't follow regulations of her own department, and seems to have clearly decided on a personal account to have "control" over which emails get released.
    Well said. Instead of everyone using this as a way to check current policies and to make sure the rules are clearly laid out and everyone is following them - it's all venting. She was unwise to use a personal server; but I don't think it was illegal at the time. But let's make sure no one in the future does this.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I have no idea if it was 100%, but I've read nowhere that he had a .gov email address and he's turned over ZERO of those private emails.

    Colin Powell says he doesn

    And I like how you attribute bad motives to Clinton, but ignore Powell and the Bush WH doing the exact same thing, only with the Bush WH millions, as many as 21 million, were permanently deleted.
    Hey, I think they all should be prosecuted then. Do you have a link or anything about Powell and Bush? I haven't read anything about that. Did they not comply with requests for those emails?

    But really, this is about Hillary. And there is a certain bunch of democrats that want her out of the way and leaked this info. That's who started this.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I have no idea if it was 100%, but I've read nowhere that he had a .gov email address and he's turned over ZERO of those private emails.

    Colin Powell says he doesn

    And I like how you attribute bad motives to Clinton, but ignore Powell and the Bush WH doing the exact same thing, only with the Bush WH millions, as many as 21 million, were permanently deleted.
    21 Million ? From who ?

    Not from Powell, and Condi Rice used a official Government Email account.

    And yes, Clintons motives are obvious. That press conference yesterday pretty much proves she's nothing but a low life liar.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Well said. Instead of everyone using this as a way to check current policies and to make sure the rules are clearly laid out and everyone is following them - it's all venting. She was unwise to use a personal server; but I don't think it was illegal at the time. But let's make sure no one in the future does this.
    I think this is a good example of these government officials thinking they are above the law, and can do whatever they want. Whether it's Powell or Clinton, or whoever. When they work for us in an official capacity, we have the right to know and obtain their emails and everything they did as a government official. I wouldn't put anyone in jail for this, but I sure would not want them working for me anymore.

    God, if I decided to set up a server in my home and conduct business for my job through it, I'd be fired the moment they found out about it. I would guess that is true for most people using their employer's email and hardware.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Hey, I think they all should be prosecuted then. Do you have a link or anything about Powell and Bush? I haven't read anything about that. Did they not comply with requests for those emails?
    Goodness, the link about Powell was in the post you quoted, and if you don't recall the Bush era email controversy, you've been living in the right wing bubble for years. But here's a link to get you started: Bush White House email controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    But really, this is about Hillary. And there is a certain bunch of democrats that want her out of the way and leaked this info. That's who started this.
    Could be democrats are behind this, but I have no idea which candidate these alleged perpetrators are backing. To this point no one with any juice has stepped forward to challenge her.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I think this is a good example of these government officials thinking they are above the law, and can do whatever they want. Whether it's Powell or Clinton, or whoever. When they work for us in an official capacity, we have the right to know and obtain their emails and everything they did as a government official. I wouldn't put anyone in jail for this, but I sure would not want them working for me anymore.

    God, if I decided to set up a server in my home and conduct business for my job through it, I'd be fired the moment they found out about it. I would guess that is true for most people using their employer's email and hardware.
    I agree with this in a way - state department business should go through .gov emails. But the problem is if she used a private email account, and she would have since it appears she likes to communicate through emails, then we'd have the same controversy, only slightly different because the allegation would be she did her secret stuff on BENGHAZI!! and the rest on her supposedly private account.

    At the end of the day, my basic feeling is every public official knows their official account is subject to routine FOIA requests and either doesn't use email for sensitive stuff, or uses a private account. So maybe disclosure rules will catch a few mistakes or very stupid people, but will do little to actually increase transparency.

    A person I work with also works on many contracts subject to FOIA requests. And on both ends it changes how business is done, and in predictable ways. Basically discussions that are typically done by email happen over the phone. Drafts for discussion with areas of concern highlighted simply aren't attached to emails - they're discussed in person or sent by fax. Etc.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

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    Goodness, the link about Powell was in the post you quoted, and if you don't recall the Bush era email controversy, you've been living in the right wing bubble for years. But here's a link to get you started: Bush White House email controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Looks like they did have multiple accounts. Though, in all these instances, I would say that it is quite obvious that the email addresses are not government email. Hillary took it a step further by having the actual server in her house. You can bet that any incriminating emails are long gone. It's almost like arresting someone, but you can only prosecute them with evidence that they have decided to provide.

    Could be democrats are behind this, but I have no idea which candidate these alleged perpetrators are backing. To this point no one with any juice has stepped forward to challenge her.
    Just my opinion, but Warren has said that she won't run if Hillary is running, and there are many liberals that want her to run.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    bwahahaha.

    this moron of epic proportions has never won a nation election, and she never will.

    I don't care how much damage control her buddies in the mainstream media try to cover this up along with your Bosnia lies, her complete lack of achieving anything as Secretary of State, and all the other nonsense she has brought to this nation is going to do her in. she is toast.

    she can go hang out with Brian Williams. she is done.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I have no idea if it was 100%, but I've read nowhere that he had a .gov email address and he's turned over ZERO of those private emails.

    Colin Powell says he doesn

    And I like how you attribute bad motives to Clinton, but ignore Powell and the Bush WH doing the exact same thing, only with the Bush WH millions, as many as 21 million, were permanently deleted.
    You guys need to stop comparing Clinton to Powell. From your own link:

    “When I entered the State Department I found an antiquated system that had to be modernized and modernized quickly,” he said. “I started using [email] in order to get everybody to use it, so we could be a 21st-century institution and not a 19th-century [one].

    In 2001, email was fairly new. I didn't get an email account until 2006. Hillary knew the rules and chose not to follow them. You can believe if you want that she felt she was too important to be bothered to carry two devices (lol) or you can believe she set the system up intentionally to control what information the public would get. Either way its bad

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