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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

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    I'm not too worried about socialsim if it's not an agenda focused on control. Canada had the second largest standing army in the world by the end of WWII. We thank you for that - at least those of us who appreciate what we were fighting thank you. The rest are focused on the next video offering, and appreciate nothing of any worth whatever. We'll be leaving them behind, if it comes down to it.

    I'm 65. It's not likely I'll make the permanent trip. My sons, however, have been encouraged to influence politics here as well as they can, and to ditch the place if it looks untenable. Freedom is paramount, whether it's socialist freedom, capitalist freedom, or whatever freedom. What's in a name? Homeland politics here are largely poisoned, so those who make it an objective are likely to become poisoned themselves. Hopefully, this will change, but I fear it will be a long time coming unless it gets violent - and I'm not a fan of violence with my fellow travelers whatever their disposition. Americans are Americans, or at least I hope so. Doesn't seem that way of late, but much that has been accepted as the norm seems to be in question just now. We'll see.
    I am also up there, turning 66 in nine days.

    Freedom of the individual IS paramount, and is only freedom with acceptance of differences.

    As we opened our doors to runaway slaves, draft dodgers and stranded airline passengers in 911, we remain free by offering that freedom to those most in need. A few years ago, after an accident and a nine hour hospital stay, I met a cab driver with the full turban of an orthodox Sikh, born in the Punjab, a peasant. Cab driving to him was a godsend, and being able to talk with me, in the front seat was why he was in Canada. He said: "India is where I was born, Canada is my home. I would die for her." I wondered if I would. That's what I want my country to be, where he can associate with a caste above his own...imagine that.

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    I still have some faith in the America I knew, a nine year old kid from rural Ontario who thought racism could be ended by Louis Armstrong telling Eisenhower to knock it off and play fair. We were taught the US constitution on three fronts, and it appears taught well. And I learned the truth about those early wars years, when the right wanted war with Britain and the left wanted no war and the middle wanted, maybe, to somehow, get Hitler to stop dropping bombs on London. It was an incredibly divided nation, a president beleagured for the failures of his social agenda.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    wow. This thread has become a conservative circle-jerk. have fun, all.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    wow. This thread has become a conservative circle-jerk. have fun, all.
    Yea, because Conservatives forced Hillary Clinton to set up a private email server for the exclusive purpose of circumventing FOIA and Oversight Committee request...

    Lol

    You lefties have a strange definition of what accountability is and who it applies too.

    Its almost like you apply it selectively based on Political affiliation.

    The NORMAL repsonse to this impressive bit of Liberal corruption would be to acknowledge it for what it is regardless of what Political party she identifies with. You know, be critical of her blatant and possibly illegal attempts to circumvent full disclosure of all her communications.

    Not to blame Conservatives for daring to talk about it. Thats just childish and hackish.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yea, because Conservatives forced Hillary Clinton to set up a private email server for the exclusive purpose of circumventing FOIA and Oversight Committee request...

    Lol

    You lefties have a strange definition of what accountability is and who it applies too.

    Its almost like you apply it selectively based on Political affiliation.

    The NORMAL repsonse to this impressive bit of Liberal corruption would be to acknowledge it for what it is regardless of what Political party she identifies with. You know, be critical of her blatant and possibly illegal attempts to circumvent full disclosure of all her communications.

    Not to blame Conservatives for daring to talk about it. Thats just childish and hackish.
    What makes it a circle jerk is that the facts of the case are still almost completely unknown, while you and the other hacks on the right are already yelling 'burn the witch!'
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    What makes it a circle jerk is that the facts of the case are still almost completely unknown, while you and the other hacks on the right are already yelling 'burn the witch!'
    Funny, from my reading of the posts, what comes up again and again is it's against the 1950's era law about official records, that it was against stated policy from the Obama administration to use private email accounts for official business, and that it poses a serious security risk.

    Have not heard any 'burn the witch'. Can you quote or link that?

    I'd further observe that there is no issue with using a private email account for private, non-government, non-official communication. Just that official government communication needs to remain on government controlled, managed, and secured communication means.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Funny, from my reading of the posts, what comes up again and again is it's against the 1950's era law about official records, that it was against stated policy from the Obama administration to use private email accounts for official business, and that it poses a serious security risk.
    And that's the point: nobody can (yet) claim that any emails were in fact official business, for the very simple reason that the emails have not yet been made public.

    Have not heard any 'burn the witch'. Can you quote or link that?
    Please tell me you aren't always this literal-minded.

    I'd further observe that there is no issue with using a private email account for private, non-government, non-official communication. Just that official government communication needs to remain on government controlled, managed, and secured communication means.
    I agree, and I already said as much earlier in the thread.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    What makes it a circle jerk is that the facts of the case are still almost completely unknown, while you and the other hacks on the right are already yelling 'burn the witch!'
    No, the facts are known.

    Hillary Clinton set up a private email server for the explicit purpose of circumventing FOIA and oversight committee request. The HACKS are the one's trying to minimize her actions with pathetic mitigation's like the one you just posted.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No, the facts are known.

    Hillary Clinton set up a private email server for the explicit purpose of circumventing FOIA and oversight committee request. The HACKS are the one's trying to minimize her actions with pathetic mitigation's like the one you just posted.
    And of course, you have no proof. Thanks for supporting my claim.
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    The trail is as slimy as an interns dress during the Clinton admin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yea, because Conservatives forced Hillary Clinton to set up a private email server for the exclusive purpose of circumventing FOIA and Oversight Committee request...

    Lol

    You lefties have a strange definition of what accountability is and who it applies too.

    Its almost like you apply it selectively based on Political affiliation.

    The NORMAL repsonse to this impressive bit of Liberal corruption would be to acknowledge it for what it is regardless of what Political party she identifies with. You know, be critical of her blatant and possibly illegal attempts to circumvent full disclosure of all her communications.

    Not to blame Conservatives for daring to talk about it. Thats just childish and hackish.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    And that's the point: nobody can (yet) claim that any emails were in fact official business, for the very simple reason that the emails have not yet been made public.
    It's been well recorded that she was always on email with her Blackberry. So she was emailing, allot in fact.

    Safe to assume that some of those emails were doing official government SoS business.

    She didn't have an official SoS email address.

    Logic concludes that it is highly likely that she was doing official SoS emails from her BlackBerry and on her private email server, although, it's not impossible that she wasn't. Perhaps she didn't do any official SoS business on email? - A rather remote possibility, but not an impossibility.

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Please tell me you aren't always this literal-minded.
    Seriously. Who's calling for 'burning' her? Not even in the literal sense, but int he figurative sense in which you cited it.

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    I agree, and I already said as much earlier in the thread.
    Fair enough.
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