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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Just so we're clear, the Secretary of State hardly needs an official email address (and especially doesn't need to cull out all the spam, viruses, and other junk). He or she has plenty of aides to handle correspondence.

    That being said, doing government business from a personal email account is a definite no-no.
    Then why was she conducting business with a private email? Your logic would lead to the conclusion that no email address was necessary. Private or Govt. And it's not only a no-no, it's illegal.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Hilary Clinton stepped down from Secretary of State in 2013. The Federal Records Act amendment that requires personal emails to be preserved on department servers did not become law until late November 2014...
    Uhm, no. You're talking about the Presidential and Federal Records Acountability Act of 2014 which allowed a a means to disicipline those that broke the Federal Records Act. Under Bill Clinton, emails became federal records meant to be archived in accordance with the Federal records act of 1950.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Then why was she conducting business with a private email? Your logic would lead to the conclusion that no email address was necessary. Private or Govt. And it's not only a no-no, it's illegal.
    Why are you asking me? I certainly don't believe that any email address was necessary: for her job. She would still have every right to use email as a private citizen for personal business, however.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Why are you asking me? I certainly don't believe that any email address was necessary: for her job. She would still have every right to use email as a private citizen for personal business, however.
    You said that she wouldn't need one for official business (aides and all that). She obviously did, just wanted it off the books.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Uhm, no. You're talking about the Presidential and Federal Records Acountability Act of 2014 which allowed a a means to disicipline those that broke the Federal Records Act.
    From my understanding the "Federal Records Act" (AKA, 44 U.S.C. Chapter 33) was updated by this Act which was signed in 2014.
    I am talking about that act. But this is the provision im talking to:"It also requires official government business done via personal email to be forwarded to an official government records system." House passes bills on IG audits, presidential records | TheHill

    Under Bill Clinton, emails became federal records meant to be archived in accordance with the Federal records act of 1950.
    From what I read, no such action took place.
    "On November 26, 2014, President Obama signed into law the Presidential and Federal Records Act Amendments of 2014. This new law modernizes records management by focusing on electronic records, and complements efforts by the US National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) and the Office of Management and Budget to implement the President’s 2011 Memorandum on Managing Government Records. Major updates to the Presidential and Federal Records Acts include:
    Strengthening the Federal Records Act by expanding the definition of Federal records to clearly include electronic records. This is the first change to the definition of a Federal record since the enactment of the act in 1950."
    National Archives Welcomes Presidential and Federal Records Act Amendments of 2014

    Can you point to this amendment Bill Clinton signed into law?


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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You said that she wouldn't need one for official business (aides and all that). She obviously did, just wanted it off the books.
    Possibly, but I'm not going to say she was trying to do official business of the books until I know what she said when, and to whom.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Is it my imagination, or does it seem like since Obama took office that democrats have acted like the rules no longer apply to them? They seem to defy the law at will and don't give a damn who knows.
    This is a practice that was going on under the Bush Administration as well. This is a systemic problem and it is unacceptable it has been going on this long.

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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    From my understanding the "Federal Records Act" (AKA, 44 U.S.C. Chapter 33) was updated by this Act which was signed in 2014.
    I am talking about that act. But this is the provision im talking to:"It also requires official government business done via personal email to be forwarded to an official government records system." House passes bills on IG audits, presidential records | TheHill


    From what I read, no such action took place.
    "On November 26, 2014, President Obama signed into law the Presidential and Federal Records Act Amendments of 2014. This new law modernizes records management by focusing on electronic records, and complements efforts by the US National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) and the Office of Management and Budget to implement the President’s 2011 Memorandum on Managing Government Records. Major updates to the Presidential and Federal Records Acts include:
    Strengthening the Federal Records Act by expanding the definition of Federal records to clearly include electronic records. This is the first change to the definition of a Federal record since the enactment of the act in 1950."
    National Archives Welcomes Presidential and Federal Records Act Amendments of 2014

    Can you point to this amendment Bill Clinton signed into law?
    First answer this....why all the hubbub about Lois Lerner's emails being lost...in 2013?
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Possibly, but I'm not going to say she was trying to do official business of the books until I know what she said when, and to whom.
    Well, according to all the breaking news, that's exactly what she did.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    First answer this....why all the hubbub about Lois Lerner's emails being lost...in 2013?
    If you would answer my question I would appreciate it. And because specific e-mails were pertinent to a congressional investigation, and also because it was from the official IRS e-mails and not from a personal email.

    But can you point to this amendment Bill Clinton signed into law?


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