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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    "she broke the law even though the law that regulates private email use by federal employees was enacted after she left federal office"
    The federal law applies to all official communications regardless of format.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Hillary Clinton Still Doesn't Get It - Ron Fournier, National Journal

    ". . . . If she wants us to see her email, Clinton should turn over every word written on her dark account(s) for independent vetting. Let somebody the public trusts decide which emails are truly private and which ones belong to the public.

    Like everything else about the response to this controversy, Clinton's tweet is reminiscent of the 1990s, when her husband's White House overcame its wrongdoing by denying the truth, blaming Republicans, and demonizing and bullying the media. It's a shameless script, unbecoming of a historic figure who could be our next president – and jarringly inappropriate for these times.


    In the 15 years since Bill Clinton left office, the internet has made almost everybody a researcher and a journalist—equipped to judge wrongdoing for themselves and insist upon accountability. We can now spot the lies ourselves, stand up to bullies, and remind our leaders that two wrongs don't make a right. The actions of Hillary Clinton and her team raise the question: Is she trapped on the wrong side of the bridge to the 21st century?
    This is part of a pattern of bad behavior. My former employer, The Associated Press said Wednesday that it was considering legal action over years of stonewalling its requests for government documents covering Clinton's tenure as secretary of state. The AP has sought her full schedules and calendars and for details on the State Department's decision to grant a special position to a longtime Clinton aide, Huma Abedin, among other documents, the New York Times, reported. The oldest AP request was made in March 2010. . . . "
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Just means it's likely an oppo research hit by anti-Hillary Dems.
    No it doesnt. Not. At. All.


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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The federal law applies to all official communications regardless of format.
    You. still havent shown that in the law.


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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No it doesnt. Not. At. All.
    Ah. Reminds me of the Clinton administration: Deny deny deny.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You. still havent shown that in the law.

    It has been shown numerous times.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No you havent. You just made a claim. I asked you to provide the sources..


    No you underlined and bolded 2 words.


    Nothing in here.. Pretty much just states, the clinton administration is committed to keeping openness and that all federal agencies need to keep the openness, and then something about speeding up FOI requests..


    Again nothing here that backs up your claim. Something about repealing the defense departments 1981 guidelins, doing a review of the FOI process, and addressing teh "backlog" of FOI requets..

    Nope still didnt break this act either.


    She still didnt violate this... Its the same act you linked above.


    This act actually shows she didnt break the law, because the revised portion wasnt passed until she was out of office in 2014, and she left office in 2013. Lets say this bill was enacted before she left office, then yes she would of broke the law. But since this revised bill passed after she left office she didnt break the law.
    You're wrong on all if it, of course, specially considering the "and spirit" of her statement. The Federal Records act requires, as I showed you, that she make available all her communications regarding govt business. Conducting federal business on a private email account may or may not be illegal in and of itself, but the simple fact remains....there is no way of ever knowing that she made available all records that are covered under the law of 1950, much less later amendments to it. She certainly hasn't upheld the spirit of the law, and most likely the letter. Now, if any word of what she sent (exclusively) on her private account (and private server) was classified....she's definitely broken the law.

    Further, there is no legitimate reason that she did not use a government email address and server for the business of the United States. None.
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    State Department reviewing whether Clinton e-mail violated security rules - The Washington Post

    The State Department is reviewing whether Hillary Rodham Clinton’s use of private e-mail during her four years leading the agency violated policies designed to protect sensitive information, a senior department official said Thursday night.
    The official said Clinton’s use of personal e-mail did not automatically break the rules, but the agency is looking into whether work e-mails sent from her personal account included sensitive information that must be handled on a system that meets specific security protocols.
    The official did not elaborate on the security requirements.
    The official, requesting anonymity to discuss sensitive internal deliberations, said the department would not know whether Clinton followed the rules until officials review the portion of e-mails that she turned over to the department last year as part of an agency effort to retrieve public records.. . . .
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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You're wrong on all if it, of course, specially considering the "and spirit" of her statement. The Federal Records act requires, as I showed you, that she make available all her communications regarding govt business. Conducting federal business on a private email account may or may not be illegal in and of itself, but the simple fact remains....there is no way of ever knowing that she made available all records that are covered under the law of 1950, much less later amendments to it. She certainly hasn't upheld the spirit of the law, and most likely the letter. Now, if any word of what she sent (exclusively) on her private account (and private server) was classified....she's definitely broken the law.

    Further, there is no legitimate reason that she did not use a government email address and server for the business of the United States. None.
    No you havent. You posted something without explaining how it, and where it states what you are claiming. Instead you just post documents and say "told you so". Did you even read them?


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    Re: Clinton had no official State Dept. email address

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It has been shown numerous times.
    Again no it hasent. The posted the definition of a word, "records". No one has shown where the word "records" has been used in the context of giving the federal government the power of acquisite "records". I repeatedly asked you to show me where, and you have refused to shown.


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