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    Pay us or we’ll call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of punishme

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    Imagine you’re browsing at Bloomingdale’s when a security guard taps you on the shoulder and accuses you of shoplifting. He takes you to a private room, sits you down, and runs your name through a database to see if you have any outstanding warrants. Then he tells you that you have two options. The first involves him calling the police, who might arrest you and take you to jail. The second allows you to walk out of the store immediately, no questions asked—right after you sign an admission of guilt and agree to pay $320 to take an online course designed to make you never want to steal again.

    Which would you choose?
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    Re: Pay us or we’ll call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

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    Pay us or we’ll call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of punishment

    Imagine you’re browsing at Bloomingdale’s when a security guard taps you on the shoulder and accuses you of shoplifting. He takes you to a private room, sits you down, and runs your name through a database to see if you have any outstanding warrants. Then he tells you that you have two options. The first involves him calling the police, who might arrest you and take you to jail. The second allows you to walk out of the store immediately, no questions asked—right after you sign an admission of guilt and agree to pay $320 to take an online course designed to make you never want to steal again.

    Which would you choose?
    Tell him to call the police, I call my lawyer and tell him we have a misdemeanor charge from Bloomingdales to make the store and police look bad and a very juicy civil suit for at least 20 million as well as possible defamation charges. And I make sure the person who brought me into the room and the person watching through the camera can hear and see everything, as well as I'd spell the name of the law firm.

    I'd then watch this guard break out into a sweat, let them give me store credit and kiss my ass and STILL file a civil lawsuit as well as make sure the lawyer subpoena's the video from my "questioning".
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    Re: Pay us or we’ll call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Welll....I wouldn't shoplift in the first place...So if they accuse me of such a thing, I would refuse to comply and go on my merry way.

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    Re: Pay us or we’ll call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
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    Pay us or we’ll call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of punishment

    Imagine you’re browsing at Bloomingdale’s when a security guard taps you on the shoulder and accuses you of shoplifting. He takes you to a private room, sits you down, and runs your name through a database to see if you have any outstanding warrants. Then he tells you that you have two options. The first involves him calling the police, who might arrest you and take you to jail. The second allows you to walk out of the store immediately, no questions asked—right after you sign an admission of guilt and agree to pay $320 to take an online course designed to make you never want to steal again.

    Which would you choose?
    At my store we tend to have either video evidence or multiple eyewitnesses before we accuse someone of wrongdoing. Either that or catching them in the act. Accusations of shoplifting can't come out of nowhere.
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    Re: Pay us or we’ll call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
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    Pay us or we’ll call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of punishment

    Imagine you’re browsing at Bloomingdale’s when a security guard taps you on the shoulder and accuses you of shoplifting. He takes you to a private room, sits you down, and runs your name through a database to see if you have any outstanding warrants. Then he tells you that you have two options. The first involves him calling the police, who might arrest you and take you to jail. The second allows you to walk out of the store immediately, no questions asked—right after you sign an admission of guilt and agree to pay $320 to take an online course designed to make you never want to steal again.

    Which would you choose?
    If I'm white and with no priors I'd fight it. If I'm black I'm agreeing to the shakedown because otherwise my day is about to get a whole lot worse.

    Edit: never mind that, I'm going with Ockham's answer.

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    Re: Pay us or we’ll call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    At my store we tend to have either video evidence or multiple eyewitnesses before we accuse someone of wrongdoing. Either that or catching them in the act. Accusations of shoplifting can't come out of nowhere.
    Same here, there are specific procedures in place that only actual shoplifters are ever even accused.

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    Re: Pay us or we’ll call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    At my store we tend to have either video evidence or multiple eyewitnesses before we accuse someone of wrongdoing. Either that or catching them in the act. Accusations of shoplifting can't come out of nowhere.
    that's what I was going to say. You can't just accuse someone of shoplifting without proof.

    Now if you are really shoplifting, then I think it's a good idea. It will give you a chance to fix things, without it possibly ruining your life.
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    Re: Pay us or we’ll call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    I'm not going to some room. If he wants to call the cops he is more than able to do so and when he does I'm suing the store.

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    Re: Pay us or we’ll call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    When I worked in retail, back in my highschool days - yes, they had highschool back then - it was common for someone who was caught shoplifting to be given the choice of paying for the goods they were accused of stealing and being banned from the store in the future, or they could sit back while the store contacted the police. Pretty much everyone who could afford to paid for the stolen goods.

    As with most things in life, those who can ill afford to get in trouble have the hardest time getting out of trouble. Lots of times little junior called home and mom or dad came down with the credit card and got junior off the hook. But if mom and dad are working or have no money, junior gets in the system.

    As for the situation outlined in the OP, it's a make money crock, in my opinion, at best, and at worst it is extortion and should be punishable with jail time.
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    Re: Pay us or we’ll call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
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    Pay us or we’ll call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of punishment

    Imagine you’re browsing at Bloomingdale’s when a security guard taps you on the shoulder and accuses you of shoplifting. He takes you to a private room, sits you down, and runs your name through a database to see if you have any outstanding warrants. Then he tells you that you have two options. The first involves him calling the police, who might arrest you and take you to jail. The second allows you to walk out of the store immediately, no questions asked—right after you sign an admission of guilt and agree to pay $320 to take an online course designed to make you never want to steal again.

    Which would you choose?
    I would request to see the video evidence of the so called 'shoplifting' while I looking for my lawyers phone number -

    If they couldn't produce video evidence which of course would show nothing since I don't shoplift and would not let me walk out freely at that point, hit send on my phone and calling my lawyer. Second I would call the police myself.

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