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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
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    Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of punishment

    Imagine you池e browsing at Bloomingdale痴 when a security guard taps you on the shoulder and accuses you of shoplifting. He takes you to a private room, sits you down, and runs your name through a database to see if you have any outstanding warrants. Then he tells you that you have two options. The first involves him calling the police, who might arrest you and take you to jail. The second allows you to walk out of the store immediately, no questions asked羊ight after you sign an admission of guilt and agree to pay $320 to take an online course designed to make you never want to steal again.
    The scenario would depend on what the local law says.
    It could fall under the rules of amicable settlement, in which case it's a completely valid legal compromise between two private parties.
    Or it could not, in which case it could conceivably be considered extortion.
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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    ahhh, the old "I got proven wrong. Here's my wellllllllllllllllllllllllll spinnnnnnnn"
    The funny thing is, I wasn't even trying to "prove him wrong". I was merely adding some additional information.

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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Show me on video shoplifting and show me also the video of me giving back what I robbed and then shove them both up your ass. Call the cops and notify your boss I am suing your company and this store.

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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    https://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/leg...0+cod+18.2-103

    Indiana Shoplifting Laws -NASP

    ??
    a 60 second google search seems to provide at least 2 states where your claims are false.

    I would suspect a lot more.
    Shoplifting - FindLaw
    Well in Oregon, that's not the case. Maybe other states allow it, but not here.
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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    My wife has worked in retail for over 30 years (all in Oregon) and the rule in every store she's ever worked in has been that it's not shoplifting until they leave the store. What she told me is that if someone stashes something on their person, until they leave the store, they can still decide to not steal it, but once they have left the store, then they have decided to steal it. Maybe other states have different laws, but I find it hard to believe (as she does as well) that you could charge someone for the crime of deciding to carry your shopping in your sock instead of a cart. My wife currently works for WM and their policy is that until someone leaves the store, you don't do so much as talk to them. You keep eyes on them 100% of the time, but you don't approach them in any way until they leave the store.
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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    There is no safe harbor for the stupid. And if you're that stupid you're going to be taken advantage of by every conman you run across. No avoiding that.

    But again, if you're innocent, then you're not a shoplifter and shouldn't admit to being one. That's what your day in court is for. Just like any other crime you're accused of and are innocent of. It's called life, **** happens, you deal with it appropriately.

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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post

    What other time?
    That one other time when I was wrong, of course.

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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    IP cameras and the systems to run and maintain are expensive.
    Normally store focus on high value goods. Cost benefit and what is being stolen by customers. Then again, up to 70 % of theft can be internal, by employes.
    Not sure about the US but up north, razor blades, brand name are pricey.
    If you go to a flea market, you will see these very same blades sold for a low price.
    Same with cosmetics.
    Same with spices. Certain spice can be quite pricey.
    Based on the theft they prevent, it's most often more expensive not to install and maintain the surveillance system.....not to mention the frivolous lawsuits they can prevent. One crook walking into a store and staging a fall can cost the business more then the cost of installing a good surveillance system. And there are also specialized systems that address theft by store employees.

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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    That will get you sued eventually. Until you leave the store, you haven't stolen anything and detaining someone in that manner is not legal.
    Actually if you have hidden the merchandise on your person...such as tossing it in your pocket, purse, and other areas, that's evidence enough.

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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And as explained already you wouldn't be in the situation to begin with. They've already spotted the person on camera and in person hiding stuff on their person. Not to mention the OP article is a fair bit of bull****.
    Ofcourse actually catching someone in the act of shoplifting is a good bust.

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