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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Tell him to call the police, I call my lawyer and tell him we have a misdemeanor charge from Bloomingdales to make the store and police look bad and a very juicy civil suit for at least 20 million as well as possible defamation charges. And I make sure the person who brought me into the room and the person watching through the camera can hear and see everything, as well as I'd spell the name of the law firm.

    I'd then watch this guard break out into a sweat, let them give me store credit and kiss my ass and STILL file a civil lawsuit as well as make sure the lawyer subpoena's the video from my "questioning".
    In none of the scenarios is there even evidence shop lifting has taken place. I don't know the exact laws there, but if you haven't left the store they cannot prove you didn't intend to pay for it before leaving. I put things in my pocket to carry to check out all the time, and until I leave the store it is not shoplifting.

    Further I would tell them to call the police, and demand that my lawyer be present immediately..but not what would happen afterward. In the power game, NEVER give up exactly what you are going to do...the vague threat is always scarier than one you can name. A "I really hope you have your kids education safely protected..." should suffice.

    And if I had put something in bad or my pocket I would say NOTHING until directed by my lawyer as he may simply end it all for you then and there after securing his fees from them.

    Even if you leave the store, an offer to pay cannot be rejected....
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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    The whole first paragraph illustrates an innocent person being coerced.
    Right... it is one huge straw man...
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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    The first-paragraph scenario is about an innocent person being coerced.
    A scenario that has no basis in reality otherwise they would have cited instances where this has actually happened...
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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    In none of the scenarios is there even evidence shop lifting has taken place. I don't know the exact laws there, but if you haven't left the store they cannot prove you didn't intend to pay for it before leaving. I put things in my pocket to carry to check out all the time, and until I leave the store it is not shoplifting.

    Further I would tell them to call the police, and demand that my lawyer be present immediately..but not what would happen afterward. In the power game, NEVER give up exactly what you are going to do...the vague threat is always scarier than one you can name. A "I really hope you have your kids education safely protected..." should suffice.

    And if I had put something in bad or my pocket I would say NOTHING until directed by my lawyer as he may simply end it all for you then and there after securing his fees from them.

    Even if you leave the store, an offer to pay cannot be rejected....
    Well, just stop that right now. If you change your mind the rest of us have no desire to buy stuff that has been warming in your nasty ass pockets when you return it to the shelf, much less stuff you've stored between your legs.

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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    But that wasn't what I responded to. You seem to think any detention is illegal. The proper and legal response to the situation you pose here is to call or have the police called to deal with the matter. The police will tell you if there are charges being pressed, what they are and if you are under arrest. If not, the you have a nifty lawsuit on your hands and the security guard is out of a job.
    Fair enough... I was incorrect in the way that I worded it... I was not clear in the first place. I meant if you are innocent of shoplifting they can not detain you against your will.
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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Fair enough... I was incorrect in the way that I worded it... I was not clear in the first place. I meant if you are innocent of shoplifting they can not detain you against your will.
    Yeah, my bad, I see that now. I will say, if some security drone taps me on the shoulder thusly I'd say call the police and get your supervisor over here right now. But then I haven't shoplifted since I was eight and stole a pack of gum on a dare. Went back the next day and paid for it.

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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    OMG did not wrap Quotes. I am sure Chicken Little is in your view. Time to duck.

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    Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of punishment

    Imagine you池e browsing at Bloomingdale痴 when a security guard taps you on the shoulder and accuses you of shoplifting. He takes you to a private room, sits you down, and runs your name through a database to see if you have any outstanding warrants. Then he tells you that you have two options. The first involves him calling the police, who might arrest you and take you to jail. The second allows you to walk out of the store immediately, no questions asked羊ight after you sign an admission of guilt and agree to pay $320 to take an online course designed to make you never want to steal again.

    Which would you choose?
    Since when do private4 people have access to police records?

    Your question insinuates that the person is innocent as they are browsing in the store and have not tried to leave.

    Are you asking what innocent people would do in this situation specifically?

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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Read the article. They are not talking about grabbing random strangers and coercing and extorting them. That you believe that is stupid beyond belief. No...I take it back...Ive seen enough here to believe just about anything. Lets just stick with its just plain old ****ing stupid.

    This program is about taking some of the 1.5 million people nabbed for shoplifting and giving them a chance to avoid a criminal record.

    And you are honest to God against that? Good. Should you or anyone you know ever get nailed for shoplifting because...you know...you are actually shoplifting, you make sure you tell them to kiss your ass and call the cops. Brilliant.
    I read the fvcking article. It opens up with a scenario where someone is confronted in the aisle, before he's stolen anything, and given the choice of cops or paying for the 'course'.
    Are you just ignoring the opening paragraph, the one quoted in the OP, and pretending it's not there? You're ignoring what I say in my replies, too, just so nothing gets in the way of your tantrum. See that part of your slobbery rant I highlighted? I told you already that it's probably a good option for someone who's guilty of stealing, but maybe you were raving at someone else at the time.
    Jesus. You're impressive, dude, no argument there.
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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    True. I find it funny that so many people are acting outraged because they'd never steal, when the whole point of this thread is that you have been caught stealing. If you didn't do it, clearly you wouldn't find yourself in that little room in the first place.
    That is not what was asked inthe OP.

    It says you were tapped on the should browsing in the store. it did not say you shoplifted anything. You were still in the store, so no shoplifting had taken place.
    Last edited by Mason66; 03-01-15 at 06:22 PM.

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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Since when do private4 people have access to police records?
    Since forever. They are public record.

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