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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Maggie...please tell me you dont believe the stores dont fully understand their role and job when it comes to theft recovery.

    This whole poutrage thing is just ridiculous. People get caught shoplifting all the time. They dont get caught because the store is running around looking to extort innocent people. They get caught because they have been...you know...SHOPLIFTING. Nothing has changed. The store is still responsible for their rules and for their theft protection services. All that has changed is that WHEN someone has been caught shoplifting they are given a choice. INSTEAD of automatically having the cops called, they can opt for a class. They can still fight it if they believe they are innocent.

    If you were caught shoplifting...which option would you WANT to be offered?

    Its just ridiculous. People trip over themselves about this whole ohimgerd...mah rights!!!
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    No, I don't buy the outrage...and I'm not outraged. And maybe? If I were planning to run for mayor? Signing a confession to stealing might be a plus.
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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Historically, they wouldnt be tapping on your shoulder unless they could already clearly demonstrate you were guilty.
    True. I find it funny that so many people are acting outraged because they'd never steal, when the whole point of this thread is that you have been caught stealing. If you didn't do it, clearly you wouldn't find yourself in that little room in the first place.
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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm guessing that, until you've left the store? You've done nothing wrong. It's not against the law to stuff a blouse under your shirt. If it is? Please point me to the statute.
    They cannot legally stop you until you have physically removed the item from the store. Until then, you have committed no crime.
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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Please, God, let me be confronted in the aisles of a store and accused of shoplifting. If you really love me, let the security drone try to detain me, inside the store. I'll own the place.
    There are 1.5 million documented instances of shoplifting every year. Approx 50% of those instances involve arrest by law enforcement. You and others with your committed poutrage about this as if the theft detection people don't understand the laws better than you is beyond ridiculous.

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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
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    No, I don't buy the outrage...and I'm not outraged. And maybe? If I were planning to run for mayor? Signing a confession to stealing might be a plus.
    True enough...it could actually boost a politicians career.

    Point being...this is all just silliness. The stores understand the rules. This is an option for some of the 1.5 million shoplifters to avoid law enforcement. People that believe they are innocent maintain their rights.

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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    They cannot legally stop you until you have physically removed the item from the store. Until then, you have committed no crime.
    Yikes, even if they stuff it down their pants? Seems like there should be some charge available for that. So the woman who put the turkey under her dress between her legs and tried to smuggle it out of the store, there's an assumption she's going to stop and pay for that? We're tripping into the absurd ignoring of reality here.

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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    There are 1.5 million documented instances of shoplifting every year. Approx 50% of those instances involve arrest by law enforcement. You and others with your committed poutrage about this as if the theft detection people don't understand the laws better than you is beyond ridiculous.
    'Way off the topic, aren't you. Got your rage all outed about something no-one has said- there, does that feel better?
    Now, back to the original post- are you so meek and obedient that you'd follow the security schmuck who confronted you in the aisle of the store to an office and believe them when they said you were guilty?
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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yikes, even if they stuff it down their pants? Seems like there should be some charge available for that. So the woman who put the turkey under her dress between her legs and tried to smuggle it out of the store, there's an assumption she's going to stop and pay for that? We're tripping into the absurd ignoring of reality here.
    Nope. The store could ask the customer to leave (and leave the turkey behind) for potentially damaging their merchandise, but there's still no actionable crime being committed. I don't think they could even go for vandalism.
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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Nope. The store could ask the customer to leave (and leave the turkey behind) for potentially damaging their merchandise, but there's still no actionable crime being committed. I don't think they could even go for vandalism.
    As I recall, when they approached her she ran and led a merry chase while still carrying the [frozen] turkey between her legs.

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    Re: Pay us or we値l call the cops: Many U.S. stores giving shoplifters choice of puni

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    As I recall, when they approached her she ran and led a merry chase while still carrying the [frozen] turkey between her legs.
    At that point, they could certainly call the police because she was trespassing. They have the right to remove her from their store for any non-protected reason they wish.
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