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    Re: Knives are out: Hawaii Dem faces backlash for taking on Obama over Islamist extre

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    Re: Knives are out: Hawaii Dem faces backlash for taking on Obama over Islamist extre

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    I also like how conservatives equate disagreement with one female to a systematic effort to erode the rights of women.
    Actually, thats the left.

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    Re: Knives are out: Hawaii Dem faces backlash for taking on Obama over Islamist extre

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It is incredibly stupid to support the usage of the term "radical Islam" because in doing so you are essentially handing a propaganda victory to terrorists by associating them with genuine Islam.
    No, what’s incredibly stupid is your usage of the term “genuine Islam” and the assumption that you are somehow depriving these radical Islamic ISIS jihadists of anything by sugar coating the issue with political correctness and lying to yourself about the realities of the world we live in. It’s also equally arrogant and ignorant of you to assume yourself the arbitrator of legitimate VS illegitimate interpretations of religions such as Islam.

    What ISIS Really Wants - The Atlantic
    Western officials would probably do best to refrain from weighing in on matters of Islamic theological debate altogether. Barack Obama himself drifted into takfiri waters when he claimed that the Islamic State was “not Islamic”—the irony being that he, as the non-Muslim son of a Muslim, may himself be classified as an apostate, and yet is now practicing takfir against Muslims. Non-Muslims’ practicing takfir elicits chuckles from jihadists (“Like a pig covered in feces giving hygiene advice to others,” one tweeted).
    But of course they’re laughing at people like you. They actually practice the strictest and most literal versions of Koranic law we’ve seen since the medieval ages so an argument can certainly be made (just ask them) that they are actually the version that is most “genuine Islam”.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    So anybody who supports usage of this term is supporting shooting ourselves in the foot. The irrational desire to use the term even when it is strategically harmful to do so can only be explained as a ignorant attitude towards Islam generally, which is totally unacceptable.
    circulus indemonstrando: You’re using a circular argument. You’re supporting your proposition with your premise which you support with your proposition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Usually you see this sort of idiocy from the Republicans, it is a bit surprising to see it from a Democrat this time. Glad that she is facing backlash.
    Thanks for sharing your logically fallacious and partisan comments. May I suggest you read the article I quoted from and linked to (above) and report back when you can form a logical argument for your position?

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    Re: Knives are out: Hawaii Dem faces backlash for taking on Obama over Islamist extre

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    No, what’s incredibly stupid is your usage of the term “genuine Islam” and the assumption that you are somehow depriving these radical Islamic ISIS jihadists of anything by sugar coating the issue with political correctness and lying to yourself about the realities of the world we live in. It’s also equally arrogant and ignorant of you to assume yourself the arbitrator of legitimate VS illegitimate interpretations of religions such as Islam.

    What ISIS Really Wants - The Atlantic
    But of course they’re laughing at people like you. They actually practice the strictest and most literal versions of Koranic law we’ve seen since the medieval ages so an argument can certainly be made (just ask them) that they are actually the version that is most “genuine Islam”.

    circulus indemonstrando: You’re using a circular argument. You’re supporting your proposition with your premise which you support with your proposition.

    Thanks for sharing your logically fallacious and partisan comments. May I suggest you read the article I quoted from and linked to (above) and report back when you can form a logical argument for your position?
    Well stated, and kudos for the latin.

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    Re: Knives are out: Hawaii Dem faces backlash for taking on Obama over Islamist extre

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It is incredibly stupid to support the usage of the term "radical Islam" because in doing so you are essentially handing a propaganda victory to terrorists by associating them with genuine Islam. So anybody who supports usage of this term is supporting shooting ourselves in the foot. The irrational desire to use the term even when it is strategically harmful to do so can only be explained as a ignorant attitude towards Islam generally, which is totally unacceptable. Usually you see this sort of idiocy from the Republicans, it is a bit surprising to see it from a Democrat this time. Glad that she is facing backlash.
    "Radical Islam" is a poor choice by which to refer to headchoppers but "Teahadists" is fine to use when referring to pretty much any Republican.

    Got it.

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    Re: Knives are out: Hawaii Dem faces backlash for taking on Obama over Islamist extre

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It is incredibly stupid to support the usage of the term "radical Islam" because in doing so you are essentially handing a propaganda victory to terrorists by associating them with genuine Islam. So anybody who supports usage of this term is supporting shooting ourselves in the foot. The irrational desire to use the term even when it is strategically harmful to do so can only be explained as a ignorant attitude towards Islam generally, which is totally unacceptable. Usually you see this sort of idiocy from the Republicans, it is a bit surprising to see it from a Democrat this time. Glad that she is facing backlash.
    I simply cannot agree with the statement that I highlighted.

    1. It is a fact that ISIS and their objectives are associated with and based on their radical interpretation of Islam.
    2. To call them "radical Islam" does not "associate" them with "genuine Islam"...rather, it differentiates the two.

    It seems to me to be a very smart thing to acknowledge that ISIS uses Islam as the basis for their actions...because they do. It also seems to me to be a very smart thing to point out the differences between the radical interpretation used by ISIS and the mainstream interpretation used by the rest of the Muslim community.

    I can understand the mainstream Muslim community not wanting any association with radical Islam, but to deny any similarities and, more importantly, any differences is much like sticking your head in the sand or putting fingers in your ears so you don't have to consider inconvenient realities.

    I suspect the Obama administration is taking this tact in order to gain support from those mainstream Muslim ostriches. but I think they are doing a disservice to the rest of America and the world. Nothing good was ever accomplished by appeasement.
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    Re: Knives are out: Hawaii Dem faces backlash for taking on Obama over Islamist extre

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It is incredibly stupid to support the usage of the term "radical Islam" because in doing so you are essentially handing a propaganda victory to terrorists by associating them with genuine Islam. So anybody who supports usage of this term is supporting shooting ourselves in the foot. The irrational desire to use the term even when it is strategically harmful to do so can only be explained as a ignorant attitude towards Islam generally, which is totally unacceptable. Usually you see this sort of idiocy from the Republicans, it is a bit surprising to see it from a Democrat this time. Glad that she is facing backlash.
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    Re: Knives are out: Hawaii Dem faces backlash for taking on Obama over Islamist extre

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    That's alright another Democrat is taking it to BO peep. The more the merrier. Hopefully the putz will start taking notice. Then cry about how others are all against him. Calling him names, picking on him. Truly showing all of his Wuss Characteristics again.



    President Obama has faced intense criticism from Republicans for his reluctance to label ISIS an “Islamic” group. But that’s not particularly remarkable. More noteworthy is that a member of the president’s own party – from his home state – has taken repeated shots at him: Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii.

    “The administration is misidentifying the enemy and their motivation,” Gabbard said on CNN earlier this week, calling the president’s emphasis on economic aspects of terrorism a “diversion.”....snip~

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    Shouldn't people of both parties applaud someone willing to speak Truth to Power. Wish we had more politicians on both sides willing to speak the truth, especially when it does not conform to "their side's" talking points.

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    Re: Knives are out: Hawaii Dem faces backlash for taking on Obama over Islamist extre

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    The people who invent a term like "RINO" sure harp a lot about disagreement among Democrats.
    Typical ad hominem post from Deuce. Do you have more in your bag of tricks than a drive-by character assassination of 1/2 the nation or is the discomfort of thought too repulsive an endeavor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Knives are out: Hawaii Dem faces backlash for taking on Obama over Islamist extre

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    I usually consider it a good thing when extremely promising young Democrats are destroyed by their own party but considering how far left and out on a ledge the Democrat Party has gone recently, and how fanatically it works at destroying freedom of speech and thought, I can't help but feel distraught and fearful for my children's and grandchildren's futures after reading this.


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