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    Re: Winter storm brings travel chaos to north Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Now, now--it is "climate change" and that your weather is changing is proof of climate change, except of course when it contradicts it, in which case weather and climate are not interrelated. Got it? Good.
    If I blow the conch and they don't come back; then we've had it. We shan't keep the fire going. We'll be like animals. We'll never be rescued.

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    Re: Winter storm brings travel chaos to north Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Now, now--it is "climate change" and that your weather is changing is proof of climate change, except of course when it contradicts it, in which case weather and climate are not interrelated. Got it? Good.
    Yeah, I think I got it. It's a sham. First it was "global warming," and now they're trying to move the goalposts.

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    Re: Winter storm brings travel chaos to north Texas

    Well isn't this article convenient:

    Cold weather doesn't mean climate change isn't happening: Bob McDonald CBC

    The phrase “Climate is what you expect; weather is what you get,” invoked by climate scientists, means that the weather we see happening outside our windows is a short-term effect, while climate is a global average measured over a longer period of time. So to judge the planet by what’s happening in your own backyard is narrow thinking.

    ​While the central and eastern parts of the continent have suffered extreme cold for the last two winters, the thermometer here in Victoria hasn’t dropped below freezing at all, skiers along the West Coast are climbing to higher altitudes to find snow, many ski resorts have closed and my lawn needs cutting.

    Australia is baking with record heat, California continues the longest drought in decades, Greenland continues to lose ice at an unprecedented rate and the Arctic Ocean shows more open water every summer.

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    Re: Winter storm brings travel chaos to north Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Yeah, I think I got it. It's a sham. First it was "global warming," and now they're trying to move the goalposts.
    And the weather stations. When the data doesn't support the cause, it is because the weather stations are in the wrong places to capture the data they want as well. I don't want to overload your mind because I know you deniers are simple creatures--so for today the lesson is 1) when tornadoes come through it is because of CO2, but when blizzards come through, it is because of CO2. "Crabgrass in the flowerbeds?" you ask--Yep CO2. CO2 is magical like that---but just the man-made kind. The nature made kind is good.
    If I blow the conch and they don't come back; then we've had it. We shan't keep the fire going. We'll be like animals. We'll never be rescued.

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    Re: Winter storm brings travel chaos to north Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Back in '84 I was in training near San Antonio when we got something like 14" of snow. Since I grew up in NY I was amused that they pulled us out of the field and shut down operations. A buddy and I headed into town to get a pizza. As we were pulling out of the joint a city bus was sliding down a small hill sideways. Half the faces in the window were terrified and the other half were laughing. It was some top quality entertainment for a day or two.

    -edit-

    Here's a video from then. Man, Texans suck at skiing and tobogganing!

    Last edited by Lutherf; 02-27-15 at 10:10 PM.

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    Re: Winter storm brings travel chaos to north Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Is it possible to have a discussion about bad weather around here without taking shots at climate science? Sheesh.

    Anyway. This bring back some bad memories of what happened to Atlanta last winter.
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    Re: Winter storm brings travel chaos to north Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    So how come they used to call it "global warming" and now they want to call it "climate change?"

    Moving the bar much?

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    Re: Winter storm brings travel chaos to north Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    And the weather stations. When the data doesn't support the cause, it is because the weather stations are in the wrong places to capture the data they want as well. I don't want to overload your mind because I know you deniers are simple creatures--so for today the lesson is 1) when tornadoes come through it is because of CO2, but when blizzards come through, it is because of CO2. "Crabgrass in the flowerbeds?" you ask--Yep CO2. CO2 is magical like that---but just the man-made kind. The nature made kind is good.
    True, true. But it's OK though, no need to panic.

    Al Gore... he'll make you an offer you can't refuse.

    All you have to do is give 20% of your income to Al Gore's organization and carbon credits, and the whole climate change bogeyman won't bother you anymore. Magic.

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    Re: Winter storm brings travel chaos to north Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    So how come they used to call it "global warming" and now they want to call it "climate change?"

    Moving the bar much?
    No a rewording to avoid confusion like your OP, global warming can make people expect the weather to get immediately warmer, whereas with climate change you remove (or at least attempt to) the assumption of warmer weather.

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