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    Re: DHS funding expected to run out as key House vote fails

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    DHS funding expected to run out as key House vote fails - CNN.com

    The Republican-controlled House was unable to muster enough votes to pass the 3-week stopgap measure.

    The Department of Homeland Security currently has 6 hours left of full funding left.

    Somebody pass me the popcorn. It's gonna be a long night on Capitol Hill.
    It would be great if DHS ran out of funding, it should be disbanded anyway.
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    Re: DHS funding expected to run out as key House vote fails

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Eh, chicken and an egg in terms of "starting it".

    Republicans can say "Obama started it" because of his executive actin. He can say Republicans started it by not allowing the Senate immigration bill to get passed the House. The Republicans can then blame the Democrats for not putting forward a bill from the Senate that the Republican House could get behind. The senate could then blame the Republicans for not comrpomising enough. And it'd just go round and round and round and round.

    Placing blame shouldn't be the goal of the media at all, despite the fact they absolutley do seem to have that as a goal. Blame lies on both sides. It's not about placing blame, but rather recognizing the empasse and either one/both sides taking the first steps to try and rectify it OR accepting that this back and forth will continue to happen and neither side is clean in the issue.
    Right, but the point is The Executive doesnt have the power to change the law when he feels the congress isnt. Whereas the congress has the power to NOT make or amend laws if they choose.

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    Re: DHS funding expected to run out as key House vote fails

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It would be great if DHS ran out of funding, it should be disbanded anyway.
    Back into its seperate agencies?

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    Re: DHS funding expected to run out as key House vote fails

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    In effect, Obama started it. But of course the media will blame Republicans.

    The public will blame the GOP, too.


    "...The survey finds 53% of Americans would blame the Republicans in Congress if the department must shut down, while 30% would blame President Barack Obama. Another 13% say both deserve the blame..."

    Poll: Blame for DHS shutdown would fall to GOP - CNN.com

    Poll: Keeping DHS Open More Important Than Opposing Obama On Immigration

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    Re: DHS funding expected to run out as key House vote fails

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It would be great if DHS ran out of funding, it should be disbanded anyway.
    If you're overweight, cut off your left leg. Problem solved. And you never have to worry about gaining that weight back.
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    Re: DHS funding expected to run out as key House vote fails

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    If you're overweight, cut off your left leg. Problem solved. And you never have to worry about gaining that weight back.
    You can get fatter. Probably would with the decrease in mobility. Of course if DHS was as useful as a leg it'd be one thing, but mostly they are like a cancerous tumor.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: DHS funding expected to run out as key House vote fails

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Democrats endangering the security of the homeland by standing loyal to illegal foreign immigrants.

    that , people, is patriotism.

    Bull****. The GOP is trying to attach irrelevant political power grabs to funding this nation's security. What would your response be to democrats attaching federal funding of abortions nationwide to a Department of Defense budget bill?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: DHS funding expected to run out as key House vote fails

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Bull****. The GOP is trying to attach irrelevant political power grabs to funding this nation's security. What would your response be to democrats attaching federal funding of abortions nationwide to a Department of Defense budget bill?
    immigration policy is not irrelevant the DHS.....ICE falls under the DHS.

    nice try, though.

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    Re: DHS funding expected to run out as key House vote fails

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You can get fatter. Probably would with the decrease in mobility. Of course if DHS was as useful as a leg it'd be one thing, but mostly they are like a cancerous tumor.
    Then just keep hacking off body parts until your net weight goes down.
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    Re: DHS funding expected to run out as key House vote fails

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Bull****. The GOP is trying to attach irrelevant political power grabs to funding this nation's security. What would your response be to democrats attaching federal funding of abortions nationwide to a Department of Defense budget bill?
    So immigration...an issue that touches upon the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS), United States Customs and Border Protection (CBP), and United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)...is as relevant to the funding of the Department of Homeland Security

    ....as....

    Abortion is to the Department of Defense.

    This is the argument you're seriously making?

    The GOP is trying to utilize their constitutionally vested power of the purse to deal with the potential funding of the cabinet department that oversees the vast majority of immigration related issues with the government.

    The President has used his constitutionally vested power to it's fullest to direct his various executive agencies to use the funds provided by them in congress in ways that are UNQUESTIONABLY contrary to the implied or stated will of the Congress. As such, they are using their constitutionally vested power to it's fullest to deny said agencies the funds to enact those things.

    This isn't a case of tying some completely unrelated political issue to the budget. This is relating to a specific issue that the specific agency who's funds are being debated is charged with handling. To compare this to holding up a budget for the Department of Defense about Abortion is RIDICULOUS.

    What would be more accurate would be wondering what someone's response would be to Democrats attaching requirements for a withdrawal timeline to a bill funding the Department of Defense's endeavors in a war...you know, like was discussed back in 2006.

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