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    Re: Exxon Mobil Settles $9 Billion New Jersey Environmental Case for $250 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Apparently the state of New Jersey doesn't think so, or they wouldn't have settled for that amount.
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    Re: Exxon Mobil Settles $9 Billion New Jersey Environmental Case for $250 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    It sure does. Part of the game. However, unless there is something to show otherwise, it would certainly appear, based on the NJ's willingness to settle is that its certainly the latter. Unless you have some conclusive evidence that nefarious influence caused the decision.
    No I am just going on past experiences on deals between Govt's and Billion $ Businesses.
    How often does it work to a fair deal for the Govt.
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    Re: Exxon Mobil Settles $9 Billion New Jersey Environmental Case for $250 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Sweet deal for Exxon.
    Roughly 3.5 % of what was asked in damages.
    Appears the taxpayer takes it up the .........
    Thoughts are?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/28/ny...T.nav=top-news

    A long-fought legal battle to recover $8.9 billion in damages from Exxon Mobil Corporation for the contamination and loss of use of more than 1,500 acres of wetlands, marshes, meadows and waters in northern New Jersey has been quietly settled by the state for around $250 million.

    The lawsuits, filed by the State Department of Environmental Protection in 2004, had been litigated by the administrations of four New Jersey governors, finally advancing last year to trial. By then, Exxon’s liability was no longer in dispute; the only issue was how much it would pay in damages.
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    Re: Exxon Mobil Settles $9 Billion New Jersey Environmental Case for $250 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Exxon Mobil must have made Christie an offer he couldn't refuse: two coupons to an All-You-Can-Eat Buffet!!!
    This deal, documentation and all should become part of the public record. Then people can see if they need to see a Proctologist.
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    Re: Exxon Mobil Settles $9 Billion New Jersey Environmental Case for $250 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Unless they're about unions buying government votes.

    Not trying to get us off-topic, but your position comes across as hypocritical based on your views in other threads.
    The "what if" I was commenting on warranted my response. Unions buying government votes I have been commenting on in the other threads is a well documented fact. There is no theory involved.

    I think you're reaching here.

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    Re: Exxon Mobil Settles $9 Billion New Jersey Environmental Case for $250 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Last owner is stuck with the bill. Exxon can always try to go after past owners.
    But 3.5 cents on the dollar compared to damages asked.
    From the article:

    The damage to the Bayonne and Linden (known as Bayway) sites dated back many years. “Contamination of the land and water at the Bayway and Bayonne refineries began as early as the 1870s in Bayonne and the early 1900s in Bayway and continues to this day,” the state’s expert report says.

    Now why is the "last owner stuck with the bill"?
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    Re: Exxon Mobil Settles $9 Billion New Jersey Environmental Case for $250 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Now why is the "last owner stuck with the bill"?
    I don't know for sure, I don't know if there is a way to find out who started polluting there 1st. But, Standard oil, to Esso, to Exxon, to Exxon-Mobile. There's a chance it might have been all the same company.

    And even if is wasn't the same company the whole time I think how much polluting was done by a certain company should matter too. Even if Exxon-Mobile didn't pollute that area since day 1, if they did for 50-60 years then they should foot most of the bill.

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    Re: Exxon Mobil Settles $9 Billion New Jersey Environmental Case for $250 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    I don't know for sure, I don't know if there is a way to find out who started polluting there 1st. But, Standard oil, to Esso, the Exxon, to Exxon-Mobile. There's a chance it might have been all the same company.

    Andeven it is wasn't I think how much polluting was done by a certain company should matter too. Even if Exxon-Mobile didn't pollute that area since day 1, if they did for 50-60 years then they should foot most of the bill.
    I totally agree that they should pay for the time that they polluted there which has been I believe since the early 1900s (when Rockefeller opened the Bayway Refinery). I don't agree with the claim "the last owner is stuck with the bill". If it turns out my house is sitting on a former Love Canal type of land, I don't expect to be stuck with the bill.
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    Re: Exxon Mobil Settles $9 Billion New Jersey Environmental Case for $250 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    From the article:

    The damage to the Bayonne and Linden (known as Bayway) sites dated back many years. “Contamination of the land and water at the Bayway and Bayonne refineries began as early as the 1870s in Bayonne and the early 1900s in Bayway and continues to this day,” the state’s expert report says.

    Now why is the "last owner stuck with the bill"?
    Due diligence. Was known to be polluted. Just the way it works. Last one at the table gets the bill.
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    Re: Exxon Mobil Settles $9 Billion New Jersey Environmental Case for $250 Million

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Due diligence. Was known to be polluted. Just the way it works. Last one at the table gets the bill.
    Can you cite the law that says that I'm responsible to pay for a clean up of a spill on my property that predates my purchase by 100 years?
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