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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fcc-ad...ail&soc_trk=ma

    It passed! I think this is a good thing. It protects consumers and businesses alike, to ensure that a business on the internet has enough internet speed so as not to discourage users from using its site, and prevents telecom companies from blackmailing them (pay us a "special fee" every year, and we'll protect you against us; otherwise, we'll slow down your speed so that you won't get any traffic). That ensures that we the consumers will get search results that are more reflective of what's out there on the internet, and not just results from the bigger businesses that have paid the "special fees."

    The internet was net neutral in the beginning. Along the way the telecom companies devised this scheme to blackmail businesses, so that they were not only gouging consumers, they could gouge businesses, too.
    Oh Yea. The internet will be protected forever...So now, the ISPs will no longer be monopolies and there will be no more "slow internet" speed complaints to Comcast right?? You put a lot of trust in this bill. How is Obamacare working out?
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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    Oh Yea. The internet will be protected forever...So now, the ISPs will no longer be monopolies and there will be no more "slow internet" speed complaints to Comcast right?? You put a lot of trust in this bill. How is Obamacare working out?
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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i don't agree that a non-neutral net would be exactly the same for this site long term. it was basically just a cop out plan the telecom companies cooked up to avoid having to build as much new infrastructure : use the existing infrastructure, but make even more money by giving the big guys a greater chunk of it. **** that.

    it's not just this site. without net neutrality, the next cool thing might not even happen. no way twitter and Facebook could have competed with Myspace if they couldn't afford to buy preferential treatment. do you want to be limited to whatever streaming movie, video, and music sites exist right now because startups can't afford to have their data on the top tier? i don't.

    piss and moan about it all you want. call your representative, and tell him or her to pass a clean bill for net neutrality. or just sit around and post angry things on the internet on a site that can't afford preferential data treatment.
    Actually, that's not exactly right. This site would not be affected either way. This site is mainly a text based site. It doesn't use that much bandwidth in the overall "internet of things". Netflix, Facebook, and Youtube are just about the only sites it affects now. Those are heavy content sites with both uploads and downloads going on consistently especially during peak hours. It was recently reported that Netflix and Youtube combined uses half of the internet's bandwidth.

    ISPs were thinking far ahead while charging these hoggers for their content. As other sites get on with equal amounts of content being consumed on a daily basis EG: Something as popular or more popular than Netflix is bound to emerge... It just makes more sense for the ISPs to prefer people use their own content. Why shouldn't Netflix pay more?

    The ISPs can only build up their infrastructure so fast. Look at Google. Despite how amazing it is that they can produce fiber internet, they are only in five cities!

    A fundamental problem with the Pro neuters agenda is the notion that ISPs will start charging people for how much content they use. While this is technically accurate. It has nothing to do with the data/bandwidth/your pocket. It's billion dollar companies fighting with each other. Nowhere near the personal level.
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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by aseidner View Post
    According to FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler, the person responsible for for net neutrality plan voted on today, the new regulations seek to "ban blocking, ban throttling, and ban paid-prioritization fast lanes", while preventing the implementation of any new taxes. I am in agreement with these broad ideas, which essentially keep the internet the way it is now. Still, I don't like that the complete plan has not been released to the public and only a summary has been made available (Chairman Wheeler Proposes New Rules for Protecting the Open Internet | FCC.gov). I suppose all we have to go on at the moment is a hope that the FCC will not overstep the bounds it has communicated to the public .

    Apparently, for whatever reason, it's standard procedure for the FCC not to release the full details of rules changes until after they are approved. Seems weird, but he's not doing anything unusual.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes. Many conservatives have this idea that the government doing something is inherently bad.

    Government is made up of people. It is only as flawed as the people making the decisions. Which, incidentally, isn't any different from any other entity.
    Sorry dude, but that is incredibly naïve. I don't even know where to begin. A government decision has the force of law behind it. a corporate decision does not. A decision like this is made by unelected bureaucrats accountable to no one. The idea that you would welcome such sweeping changes backed by the force of law brought into being by people not elected or accountable to the people is frightening. Try, for once, viewing big government with the same skeptical eye that you view big business. In reality, you should be more skeptical and cautious of state power because the state has a monopoly on the use of force.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    My fear is that Government did it!
    Because you'd rather have google or verizon or comcast doing it?

    Seriously, what is with people and their paranoia of govt? But they happily hand their data over to big companies all the time (who then turn around and give it straight to the govt, but that's a different thread)

    At least with govt, we can elect different people who can then appoint different FCC regulators. With big business, very few of us have any real choice in our ISP providers.

    And please let me know if your phones - regulated under the same provision - are set so you can't complain about the govt over them....

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Sorry dude, but that is incredibly naïve. I don't even know where to begin. A government decision has the force of law behind it. a corporate decision does not. A decision like this is made by unelected bureaucrats accountable to no one. The idea that you would welcome such sweeping changes backed by the force of law brought into being by people not elected or accountable to the people is frightening. Try, for once, viewing big government with the same skeptical eye that you view big business. In reality, you should be more skeptical and cautious of state power because the state has a monopoly on the use of force.
    govt IS accountable to the people. Much more than big corporations.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by aseidner View Post
    According to FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler, the person responsible for for net neutrality plan voted on today, the new regulations seek to "ban blocking, ban throttling, and ban paid-prioritization fast lanes", while preventing the implementation of any new taxes. I am in agreement with these broad ideas, which essentially keep the internet the way it is now. Still, I don't like that the complete plan has not been released to the public and only a summary has been made available (Chairman Wheeler Proposes New Rules for Protecting the Open Internet | FCC.gov). I suppose all we have to go on at the moment is a hope that the FCC will not overstep the bounds it has communicated to the public .
    Who the hell is Tom Wheeler? How and why this guy no one has heard of has the power to alter something that effects virtually every American without debate is something everyone should oppose.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Apparently, for whatever reason, it's standard procedure for the FCC not to release the full details of rules changes until after they are approved. Seems weird, but he's not doing anything unusual.
    I read that as well and think that that standard procedure is a load of BS. Something as big as this should have been discussed more publicly.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Sorry dude, but that is incredibly naïve. I don't even know where to begin. A government decision has the force of law behind it. a corporate decision does not. A decision like this is made by unelected bureaucrats accountable to no one. The idea that you would welcome such sweeping changes backed by the force of law brought into being by people not elected or accountable to the people is frightening. Try, for once, viewing big government with the same skeptical eye that you view big business. In reality, you should be more skeptical and cautious of state power because the state has a monopoly on the use of force.
    And for once maybe you shouldn't assume a regulation you know nothing about is a disaster.

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