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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    And you know all that how???!!? There was no transparency leading up to the vote, the over-sight committees had not yet seen the regulations. This has sniveling Pelosi BS all over, 'they needed to pass it so we can know what is in it'.
    I judge based on information previously released, but will reassess once the regs hit the federal register.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    What you are missing is the FCC is responsible for creating the monopoly that Comcast enjoys.
    Different phone companies get different territories, and are exclusive in that territory.
    Under deregulation, a competitor can operate in one of these exclusive territories,
    but needs to rent space in the competitors building. (CLEC)
    Competitive local exchange carrier - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    There were issues with the way it was working, I am concerned that in fixing the issues,
    We might end up with fewer choices, not more.
    You are misinformed. You are using the telephone regulations and they do not apply to cable companies and their delivery of internet or TV. Curiously, the regulations you talk about were put in place to keep the Baby Bells from completely monopolizing their territory after the breakup of AT&T. They had to provide alternate access so that cellular carriers could complete calls to land lines. When the FCC put those rules in place, the Baby Bells made the same arguments about stifling investment as the Comcast's are making. It is BS.

    BTW, the other big thing that the FCC did was nullify state laws that would prevent municipalities from installing their own digital infrastructure. The state governments were in the pockets of cable companies and were passing laws protecting the monopolies of the cable companies. The FCC said they could not do that. This is a big win because cable companies were not providing adequate service to many communities (cable companies actually provide inadequate service to everyone).

    All in all, having the government step in to keep the cable companies from screwing us over is a good thing.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    You do know that ISP have expenses that need to be met?? Things like payroll, hardware, software, etc.
    Go look at the gross profit margin of the internet service that cable companies provide. Given that the cable is installed in order to provide TV, the marginal cost of providing internet service over that cable is VERY low. Some companies achieve a GPM of over 90% on their internet service. This is a very high number and would pay for a lot of people.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I didn't say we need to break them up, im saying we need to regulate them. Monopolies are in unique position to abuse the public, and high-speed internet is a sort of natural monopoly. There are physical, financial, and technical limitations to true competition. Arbitrarily breaking up companies doesn't solve the issue, as the local cable company is still going to be a local monopoly.

    Hence the need for regulation.
    I disagree - we DO need to break them up especially where competition is not adequate. Regulation or it's more commonly known synonym, "control" isn't needed with the internet, but I think we've already gone around that may pole.
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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I judge based on information previously released, but will reassess once the regs hit the federal register.
    As will I, but judging on history and experience with this slimy administration, ala Obamacare 'we have to pass to find out what is in it', I am not holding out hope. The philosophy of the regulation may make sense, but how can so many libs blindly support it before knowing what the law actually is?? Fool me once....... ala the slimy Obamacare law.
    The Gruber-crat is strong in this one!

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Agreed. One hundred dollars, as of yesterday.

    Seeing as your own criteria was "only able to get internet from your local government," you've already lost. Those cities run their own broadband network, but they aren't the only option. You still have the option of whatever local cable company is operating.

    We both know you're not honest enough to pay up, though.
    Agreed, Ive won. There are already places where the internet is a public monopoly. Donate it to the NRA please.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I disagree - we DO need to break them up especially where competition is not adequate. Regulation or it's more commonly known synonym, "control" isn't needed with the internet, but I think we've already gone around that may pole.
    But breaking up a company doesn't solve the monopoly issue. There's only one cable line in my neighborhood, only one entity can own it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Agreed, Ive won. There are already places where the internet is a public monopoly. Donate it to the NRA please.
    Name such a place.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    But breaking up a company doesn't solve the monopoly issue.
    They don't have to break up the company. That's not the only option the FTC would have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    There's only one cable line in my neighborhood, only one entity can own it.
    One of the bell companies owned the only copper telephone lines in your neighborhood too at one time and they were forced to share and compete by allowing other company's to offer local telephone service on those lines as well.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    They don't have to break up the company. That's not the only option the FTC would have.
    No, they don't have to. Breaking them up was your idea, not mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham, on this page
    I disagree - we DO need to break them up especially where competition is not adequate.
    One of the bell companies owned the only copper telephone lines in your neighborhood too at one time and they were forced to share and compete by allowing other company's to offer local telephone service on those lines as well.
    Yes, that is certainly an option and it is one of the potential actions that the FCC can use under Title II to ensure fair competition. It's the sort of option brought about by

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham, on this page
    Regulation or it's more commonly known synonym, "control" isn't needed with the internet, but I think we've already gone around that may pole.
    Did you have a stroke and forget which side of this argument you are on?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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