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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    In fact its rights next door. Soon you will only be able to get internet from your local government.
    Let's bet on it. Henrin too, since he "liked" your post.

    Pick your timeframe. What is "soon?" We'll bet a forum donation on it, amount of your choosing.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That is the absolute truth - Time Warner can't walk into my area in NJ and offer me service - Comcast owns all the wires, demarcations all the way through to the network. Comcast wouldn't let Time Warner or any other providers come into their turf and offer service on their lines. The only reason FIOS can offer service is because Verizon uses it's own last mile fiber to the home and will run their own strands down streets and into neighborhoods. How these pseudo monopolies continue to exist given the Bell/AT&T divestiture in 1983 set such a precedent is beyond me. I would have thought our anti-monopoly and regulatory crazy government would jump all over that but perhaps the backroom deals and lobbyist money is just too free flowing.
    Precisely why oversight is required to make sure these companies don't abuse the power that comes with a monopoly on such a basic service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes. Exactly.

    We already had net neutrality. It went away last year. The internet worked fine in 2013. Let's get that back.
    that's why the govt is setting up the rules. Because the ISPs don't want net neutrality you won't get it without some regulation.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Precisely why oversight is required to make sure these companies don't abuse the power that comes with a monopoly on such a basic service.
    Who oversees the Regulators ? What happens when they overstep their authority ?

    No one and nothing.

    So for a percieved and imagined injustice, you support blanket intervention blindly ?

    The last time the Government intervened in the private sector for the purpose of regulating " fairness and equity " we wound up with a massive housing bubble.

    The people who they set out to protect were some of the first people to lose their homes.

    Same with ObamaCare. Sold under the pretense of making Health Insurance " affordable " but now its driving up premiums and deductibles and hitting Middle class Americans hard.

    Its always the case with progressive initiatives. Shallow and poorly thought out attempts that come with severe consequences down the road.

    The problem with this administration is we KNOW they're lying. We know their real intentions have little to do with making anything " equitable ".

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Who oversees the Regulators ? What happens when they overstep their authority ?

    No one and nothing.
    Voters. Elections. Don't like who is being appointed? Fire the people doing the appointing.


    So for a percieved and imagined injustice, you support blanket intervention blindly ?
    Again with the absolutes. Are conservatives capable of thinking in any other terms? Nobody said they support any regulation for any reason, and you are blindly opposing regulations.

    The problem with this administration is we KNOW they're lying. We know their real intentions have little to do with making anything " equitable ".
    Equitable isn't in the regulations being proposed, nor supported. I guess you're one of those people who still thinks net neutrality means ISPs can't offer different speed packages, or whatever nonsense you've invented.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Voters. Elections. Don't like who is being appointed? Fire the people doing the appointing.



    Again with the absolutes. Are conservatives capable of thinking in any other terms? Nobody said they support any regulation for any reason, and you are blindly opposing regulations.


    Equitable isn't in the regulations being proposed, nor supported. I guess you're one of those people who still thinks net neutrality means ISPs can't offer different speed packages, or whatever nonsense you've invented.
    Voters and elections....LOL !!

    Nonsense. Voters and elections don't enforce laws. The Government enforces laws and apparently ignores them when its politically beneficial.

    Who enforced the laws when the IRS went around targeting innocent Americans based on their Political affiliation ? Who enforced the laws when the DOJ allowed thousands of assault weapons to walk into the waiting arms of the Mexican drug cartels ?

    Who's enforcing our immigration laws as millions of illegals stream into to the US to take jobs away from Americans right in the middle of the worst " recovery " since WW II ?

    And absolutes are important especially when it comes to the Government apppointing it self more power. Whats so difficult about full disclosure ?

    Nothing, unless your'e trying to hide something, which is par for the course when it comes to these groups of thugs.

    Wish we had absolutes back when Obama was telling eveveryone that they could keep their Dr and Insurance if they wanted to.

    But all we had was lies, false narratives and plattitudes and pretense about " fairness, affordability and access ".

    Now we have much higher premiums, deductibles and the Treasury department paying ObamaCares bills without Congressional oversight.

    And sorry, but this whole issue has been based around the same empty narratives that the Democrats are known for. The title of this OP even has the word " discrimination " in it .

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    You do know that ISP have expenses that need to be met?? Things like payroll, hardware, software, etc.
    No they don't. They are just cash revenue streams for the 1%ers. There is no maintenance to be done, no costs of employment, and certainly no pressure to be competitive. [/ sarcasm].

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I just don't understand this argument.

    15 years ago I was paying $40/mo for 1.5 Mb DSL which was a huge increase over the 56Kb dial up I'd had for $25/mo. Now I'm paying something like $60/mo for 50Mb cable.

    I fail to see how any of this indicates that I'm getting screwed. While my cost has more than doubled in 15 years the service I'm getting is 100x better and more consistent. I damned sure can't say the same for the other public utilities I'm paying for. My electric bill is higher but I'm not getting better electricity. My gas bill is higher but I'm not getting better gas. My water bill is higher but that's not getting better either.

    So far the only damned utility I'm paying for that has both gone up in cost and increased in quality is my relatively unregulated internet which, as of a couple of hours ago, has become highly regulated!
    There are two electric companies in our area. We have Georgia Power and Habersham Electric Membership Company (a co-op). One is owned by the customers, and in fact we get a refund check once a year for overages (although probably not this year considering all the work they did the get people back up and running after a series of winter storms). The other is a state subsidized corporation. Guess which one has outstanding service?

    BTW HEMC is currently installing fiberoptics for internet, phone and TV, and kicking seven shades of **** out of Windstream, the local monopoly with crap service who happens to own the existing lines.
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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Who oversees the Regulators ? What happens when they overstep their authority ?
    We keel them ....and cut of their allowances? And..not necessarily in that order.
    No one and nothing.
    Congressional committees thrive on this stuff...especially the right wing ones.
    So for a percieved and imagined injustice, you support blanket intervention blindly ?
    NO, with weyes ide open.

    The last time the Government intervened in the private sector for the purpose of regulating " fairness and equity " we wound up with a massive housing bubble.
    No, no, no....it was deeee-regulation that caused mastiff bubbles in housing, u wittle revisionist u.

    The people who they set out to protect were some of the first people to lose their homes.
    Don't cry, Donnie Trump can shrill keep his gawdy awful McMansion(s).

    Same with ObamaCare. Sold under the pretense of making Health Insurance " affordable " but now its driving up premiums and deductibles and hitting Middle class Americans hard.
    Paying 4k a year for two people on group insurance sure beats paying 8k out of pocket for an individual policy that doesn't even cover emergency care. Thank you, Obama.

    Its always the case with progressive initiatives. Shallow and poorly thought out attempts that come with severe consequences down the road.
    ACA was a republican idea.


    The problem with this administration is we KNOW they're lying. We know their real intentions have little to do with making anything " equitable ".
    We KNOW that ALL administrations LIE. So what else is new?

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    The audacity with which THIS Admin lies.

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