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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    They did mention that there were comments supporting him as well. Did you read it?

    But go look at cruz's FB page directly if you want - there is a link to it from the article.
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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

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    bummer. work sure gets in the way sometimes, doesn't it? (smile)

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    bummer. work sure gets in the way sometimes, doesn't it? (smile)
    Isn't it always the case?
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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    ... because we all have dealt with cable television packages that offer premium channel upgrade options.

    No one in their right mind wants to be paying $50 to "upgrade" to a package that offers Wikipedia. Or be held-up by your ISP throttling your service until you pay a service fee.

    We've also seen it in practice. The ISPs have been experimenting with data caps in several markets. Comcast and Verizon were charging Netflix a fee to "ensure" that its data streams to customers weren't being interrupted.

    no, Netflix was given peers upstream peers for downstream traffic as a courtesy. The negotiations were for direct pipes to comcast and verizion. The common excuse for "net neutrality" is comcast/netflix.

    However, this has NOTHING to do with net neutrality, and even less to do with obama's fake "net neutrality" plan.
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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    This could be good. I think we need true Net Neutrality. But this is the FCC, so who really knows what we'll end up with.


    "net neutrality" is every packet of the same type equal.


    This "plan" is not "net neutrality".
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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Seems rather recurring and typical of this administration's regulatory and legislative agenda, doesn't it?

    Along with 'You can't read it until after you vote for it' (applies to ObamaCare and these FCC Regs - all 320 pages of them)



    No permissible in the eyes of this administration.



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    Soros, Ford Foundation shovel $196 million to 'net neutrality' groups, staff to White House | WashingtonExaminer.com

    Soros, Ford Foundation Donated Nearly $200M to Pro-Net Neutrality Groups

    George Soros and the Leftist Ford Foundation Financed Fight for Net Neutrality

    What I can't figure is why. How is it an advantage to Soros, et. al. that the Federal Government has it's fingers in the Internet.

    Regulating the Internet like a public utility? Just exactly how innovative have public utilities been over the last 20 years? Not really. Expecting the same to happen to the Internet. Government involvement always means higher prices and worse service.
    And not responding to complaints about unfair and discriminatory treatment. Think IRS scandal.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    Basically it's Billion Dollar companies fighting with each other. Just a few Billion dollar companies and their friends were able to use a slick social media campaign to get the majority of the public on their side. Yet no one sees the problem with that
    Not yet, but they will when it's too late!

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    You think its a good thing because you have no idea what it really is, because they did it mostly in secret. 3 political appointees made this change. No approval by congress. They just nationalized the internet. In 2007 Obama criticized this approach.,

    Sen. Obama: Irresponsible To Vote On New Regs Without Public | The Daily Caller
    We've already established that Obama's a known hypocrite.

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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I've been operating under the framework provided here:

    https://www.fcc.gov/document/chairma...-open-internet
    All well and good, but it's a framework. A framework for something 100's of pages long. This is actually my precise point.

    If all that ends up happening is them reactively enforcing the three "Bright Line Rules" listed here, that's no problem. But just in the way they describe them..."the first three", suggests there's more than just that (else it would be "the three" or "the only three").

    That's my problem. If all this regulation was going to do was give them authority to mandate "no blocking", "no throttling", and "no paid prioritization" and actually enforce that then it wouldn't likely take 300 pages, it wouldn't likely be kept from public review, and it wouldn't be presented as seemingly the first of multiple new rules.

    Like I said initially, if it just winds up being that the regulations that occur simply focus on those three basic net neutrality principles, and do not expand beyond or is not used for broad regulatory actions then I'm perfectly okay with this. But even from the framework you laid out, it's made abundantly clear that those three things aren't the only potential rules that may end up coming down. The REALITY is we don't know for sure what all this is going to allow the government to do, or what this current leadership or future leadership of the FCC will do with the new found power. As such, whether this is a good or bad thing in a long term sense is something I honestly don't know and can't answer. It's something that, in theory...if what is being pitched is honest and the excess it seem's to imply is simply fluff then I think it'll be a good thing. But there are definitely warning signs and potential unknowns that give me enough pause to simply declare it an absolute success that will narrowly be used ONLY to "keep the internet like it is today"
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    Re: FCC adopts Net neutrality rules to ban Internet discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    because this is the trojan horse and just the beginning of content control by local municipalites.. soon you will need a license to have a computer..
    Actually Title II makes it harder for local regulations to create barriers like that.

    Also, the "Soros donated $200 million for net neutrality" thing is ridiculous. What actually happened is that Soros over a period of like 15 years funded several organizations like universities and the ACLU. Since the ACLU supports net neutrality, the right-wing loons at these "news" organizations counted every dollar as financing the fight for net neutrality.
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