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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by leoborn View Post
    Wait, I'm confused. Obama dares the GOP? I thought the Republicans won the 2014 midterms in a landside. Why does Obama think he's running the show, and giving the orders? Didn't anyone tell him the news?
    Obama doesn't care one whit if his party goes down in flames.

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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    why do you work instead of staying home while your husband earns the family's living?
    then why would the spouses of these legal foreign employees not also want to be able to work

    one of the smartest things we could do is open our doors to expedited citizenship for the well educated
    Because we already have a native workforce for that. And again, H1B visas are NON-immigrant visas. They have to go home after six years anyway.

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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Because we already have a native workforce for that. And again, H1B visas are NON-immigrant visas. They have to go home after six years anyway.
    H1B visas are dual intent, allowing for simultaneous application for green card status
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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And are they illegal? ARE THEY ILLEGAL? No, they are not...unlike what was claimed in the OP.

    And besides, would you rather have highly-skilled H-1B workers stay here and become American taxpayers, or would you rather have them make their money and then take their money (and their skills) back to where they came from? Really, guy, which is better for

    America?
    H-1B workers are "non immigrants", because they are temporary workers to the u.s. meaning they enter through legal channels for a certain span of time... however if the over stay their visa, then they are reclassified as an "illegal alien"



    The H-1B program applies to employers seeking to hire nonimmigrant aliens as workers in specialty occupations or as fashion models of distinguished merit and ability. A specialty occupation is one that requires the application of a body of highly specialized knowledge and the attainment of at least a bachelor’s degree or its equivalent. The intent of the H-1B provisions is to help employers who cannot otherwise obtain needed business skills and abilities from the U.S. workforce by authorizing the temporary employment of qualified individuals who are not otherwise authorized to work in the United States.
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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    H-1B workers are "non immigrants", because they are temporary workers to the u.s. meaning they enter through legal channels for a certain span of time... however if the over stay their visa, then they are reclassified as an "illegal alien"



    The H-1B program applies to employers seeking to hire nonimmigrant aliens as workers in specialty occupations or as fashion models of distinguished merit and ability. A specialty occupation is one that requires the application of a body of highly specialized knowledge and the attainment of at least a bachelor’s degree or its equivalent. The intent of the H-1B provisions is to help employers who cannot otherwise obtain needed business skills and abilities from the U.S. workforce by authorizing the temporary employment of qualified individuals who are not otherwise authorized to work in the United States.
    And what happens is when they come here and want to stay in America, they apply for an adjustment of status in order to become legal permanent residents. This is not unusual - in fact, it's quite normal.
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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by glen contrarian View Post
    and what happens is when they come here and want to stay in america, they apply for an adjustment of status in order to become legal permanent residents.

    This is not unusual - in fact, it's quite normal.
    yes they can have their status changed, but they must seek to do that.......if they do not they are illegal aliens.

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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, they are here TEMPORARILY and legally as visa holders. And I'd rather they end up going home and a citizen be hired in their place. You so obviously don't know what H1B visas are for. The hiring company must recertify every year that they still need the foreign worker and that no American worker is available for the job. Companies lie through their teeth and ICE doesn't even give it a passing glance. Intel and the other tech companies are notorious for this.
    Educate yourself on adjustment of status for H-1B workers, which is a normal process for them to become legal permanent residents.
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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Is there any doubt left that this is an AMNESTY bill, not just immigration reform?
    These are future DNC voters and future SNAP and Section 8 recipients... that's what the WH believes anways. Basically the future of the Democratic voting block. The WH could never identify them as law breakers or illegal.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Is there any doubt left that this is an AMNESTY bill, not just immigration reform?

    And is there any doubt that the intent is to get these people into voting booths as quickly as possible?
    No there is little doubt about that, I noted a Democratic Congressman (can't remember the name) quoted as saying the amnesty issue would affect elections for the next thirty years

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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Obama doesn't care one whit if his party goes down in flames.
    He hates us all equally?

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