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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Look, this isn't about the visa holders themselves. This is about the spouses they bring with them being able to work legally. Btw, no other country I'm aware of allows this. If you're brought in on a high skill visa, generally spouses who tag along are not allowed to work.

    And in no way are H1B visa holders "Americans in waiting". Their visas are supposed to expire the moment an American can be hired with the skills to do the job.
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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    what part confuses you that youre response it that?... these are real subjects.

    This is simply Obama breaking the laws to create and pay Democrats in waiting
    I'm not confused, I was rolling my eyes. Because this is an unserious thread that does not deserve to be taken seriously.

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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Is there any doubt left that this is an AMNESTY bill, not just immigration reform?

    And is there any doubt that the intent is to get these people into voting booths as quickly as possible?
    Whether they're legal, illegal, or whatever, why is this a good thing anyway?

    And wut in the name of doG is "Weasel Zippers"?
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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Is there any doubt left that this is an AMNESTY bill, not just immigration reform?

    And is there any doubt that the intent is to get these people into voting booths as quickly as possible?
    None, whatsoever! And why is it necessary to fund actions Obama himself said he doesn't have the authority to do?

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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And you counter with your own lie or lack of knowledge.

    H1B visa holders are NOT immigrants. They are highly skilled GUEST workers. There is no path to citizenship for them. They still have to apply for citizenship (if they wish it) like every other potential immigrant. The ONLY reason that visa exists is that we supposedly can't fill the job slots with our own highly skilled workers. In fact, the hiring company must attest they cannot find native labor and they need the foreign labor before any visa is issued.
    Exactly what are they doing that is so high-skilled that there is not an American worker to do the job? :

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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Look, this isn't about the visa holders themselves. This is about the spouses they bring with them being able to work legally. Btw, no other country I'm aware of allows this. If you're brought in on a high skill visa, generally spouses who tag along are not allowed to work.

    And in no way are H1B visa holders "Americans in waiting". Their visas are supposed to expire the moment an American can be hired with the skills to do the job.
    So are the spouses also so highly skilled that an American can't do the job they would take either?

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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And your reference is a complete and utter LIE.

    Why? If one would READ the White House press release that describes the Americans-in-waiting, it in NO way refers to illegal immigrants. Instead, it's referring to the spouses of LEGAL immigrants - holders of H-1B visas - who ARE allowed to travel here with their spouses when they are hired to work here in America. They are ALL legally here, and what the White House is doing is enabling the highly-skilled immigrants (which is what H-1B visas are for) to be better able to remain here and earn their citizenship.

    So...do you believe we should encourage LEGAL immigration by those who are highly-educated and highly-skilled? Or do you want to exclude them, too? There's others who have come to America who have earned their citizenship in the exact same way. One was a guy named Einstein - you may have heard of him.
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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    How do you encourage legal immigration of "bright collar" workers when 500,000 unskilled workers flood the US every year?

    If you are claiming "immigration reform" that gaping hole in the border must be addressed before anyone is going to take Obama seriously...which is fair as he's had seven years to do this, two of them with a full majority and he is only now, while losing seven wars, making all this a priority.
    : And I'm getting sick of this double talk : too!

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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by leoborn View Post
    None, whatsoever! And why is it necessary to fund actions Obama himself said he doesn't have the authority to do?
    Obama: "We've expanded my authorities."

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    Re: White House calls illegal immigrants ‘Americans-in-waiting’

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Whether they're legal, illegal, or whatever, why is this a good thing anyway?
    There's a big pot of gold awaiting them, too.

    Amnesty Beneficiaries Could Claim More Than $35K In Tax Benefits In First Year - Breitbart

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