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    Re: Live feed to the FCC vote on Net Neutrality.

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    not one person who is for the passing of these new regulations, can tell us what exactly was in them

    doesnt that bother any of you?

    does your trust of government run so deep that you just accept secret regulations that never get to be debated by the public

    rules that the congress wasnt even allowed to see?

    for an administration that promised everything out in the open, this reeks

    something stinks, and it isnt the kimchee in my neighbors yard
    As an issue unto itself, regardless the specific subject matter, yes, that does bother me. Greatly.
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    Re: Live feed to the FCC vote on Net Neutrality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Liberals and thus freedom won today. Much like clean air and clean water, we can thank liberals for a free internet saved from the clutches of tyrannical corporate profits and monopoly.
    Blind allegiance and hyperbole, eh ?

    Thats nothing to be thankful for or proud of.

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    Re: Live feed to the FCC vote on Net Neutrality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So what do you think will be the concrete negative impact of this? And I don't mean vague bumper sticker answers like "less freedom" or "kittens will have teh sadz." Something tangible.
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    Re: Live feed to the FCC vote on Net Neutrality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Blind allegiance and hyperbole, eh ?

    Thats nothing to be thankful for or proud of.
    50 years ago or so, liberals were high-fiving each other when they implemented tax changes that encouraged employers to take over providing health insurance in the market

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    Re: Live feed to the FCC vote on Net Neutrality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Blind allegiance and hyperbole, eh ?

    Thats nothing to be thankful for or proud of.
    I've read all about Net Neutrality and I support the rationale behind it 100%. I've noticed many right-wingers in this thread haven't the slightest clue what they're talking about and obviously got their beliefs from the man on the radio, or the tv, or some hackish right-wing puke repository of lies on the net.

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    Re: Live feed to the FCC vote on Net Neutrality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    I've read all about Net Neutrality and I support the rationale behind it 100%. I've noticed many right-wingers in this thread haven't the slightest clue what they're talking about and obviously got their beliefs from the man on the radio, or the tv, or some hackish right-wing puke repository of lies on the net.
    OK, since you know all about it, what are the potential downsides and unforeseen consequences?

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    Re: Live feed to the FCC vote on Net Neutrality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    OK, since you know all about it, what are the potential downsides and unforeseen consequences?
    It could be nice to have fast lanes and have people who are willing to pay more to create ultra fast, low latency networks with higher reliability. This could be great, but the potential downsides are terrible. Allowing data to be discriminated against would hand the keys over to the ISPs, they would essentially become a bridge troll that demands whatever the hell they want or else little or no access to the bridge. The big guys would have an inherent advantage over smaller outfits. They could pay for priority access to their websites while startups or small companies with tight budgets are basically blacklisted. This encourages monopoly and discourages competition.

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    Re: Live feed to the FCC vote on Net Neutrality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    I've read all about Net Neutrality and I support the rationale behind it 100%. I've noticed many right-wingers in this thread haven't the slightest clue what they're talking about and obviously got their beliefs from the man on the radio, or the tv, or some hackish right-wing puke repository of lies on the net.
    so you know what the fcc wrote then

    please enlighten the rest of us

    we arent privy to such secret documentation
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    Re: Live feed to the FCC vote on Net Neutrality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    OK, since you know all about it, what are the potential downsides and unforeseen consequences?
    Well the Google Video vs Youtube battle is a perfect example.

    Google Video was of course created by a company with tons of money and Youtube was created by three former PayPal employees.

    In a situation where Google could use their clout and money, they could of paid for ultra fast lanes to stream videos. Youtube on the other hand couldn't cough up that kind of the money when they first hit the market.

    In a situation where there were no fast lanes/slow lanes, people flooded to Youtube because it's features were superior and Google eventually scrapped Google Video and just bought Youtube.

    That's a situation where a non-neutral internet could be used to cut off competition. No matter how much better Youtube is, if it takes 60% longer to download than Google Video, people would of went with the "faster" player.
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    Re: Live feed to the FCC vote on Net Neutrality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    It could be nice to have fast lanes and have people who are willing to pay more to create ultra fast, low latency networks with higher reliability. This could be great, but the potential downsides are terrible. Allowing data to be discriminated against would hand the keys over to the ISPs, they would essentially become a bridge troll that demands whatever the hell they want or else little or no access to the bridge. The big guys would have an inherent advantage over smaller outfits. They could pay for priority access to their websites while startups or small companies with tight budgets are basically blacklisted. This encourages monopoly and discourages competition.
    but utilities are not monopolies?......and the goverment is not a monopoly..?

    You just whiffed on the macro point..and are buying off on the facade and minutia ...exactly what they wanted...they saved you fromt he big bad Comcast...right?


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