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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Yeah, the militant Islamic fundamentalists no doubt feel that their's is the just, honorable cause, and they may have a point, at least from their perspective. However, beheading innocent people, NOG aide workers, others of other religions and nations, isn't going to be the way to convince the world that it is.

    I'm sure that the world would allow them a little corner, where they can preach and live in their backward ways, as long as it didn't result in explosions or killing of others. But that's not the path they have chosen. Eventually, the world will have had enough of their evil doing and their evil ways, and the weight of the world's nations combined military will rain death down on them. They too, have chosen the path of their own demise.
    I'd like to agree but I see no indication of any serious response from any of the democracies, and certainly not one of organization. I'm sure they offer information regarding dangerous suspects but as we have seen in the case of the Boston Marathon bombers, this information is often ignored.

    Austria is trying to fight back in their own small way but I doubt they'll win. The citizens are too cowed while their enemies are willing to make sacrifices the Austrians, and all other Europeans, wont.

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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'd like to agree but I see no indication of any serious response from any of the democracies, and certainly not one of organization. I'm sure they offer information regarding dangerous suspects but as we have seen in the case of the Boston Marathon bombers, this information is often ignored.

    Austria is trying to fight back in their own small way but I doubt they'll win. The citizens are too cowed while their enemies are willing to make sacrifices the Austrians, and all other Europeans, wont.

    Austria Passes Reforms to 1912 Islam Law
    While true Grant, the future is yet unwritten, as an old Arabic saying goes (at least I think that's where it came from). It's all yet to be seen.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Deliberately targeting his family would make you no better than those pigs.
    If they didn't assist in identifying then, they are complicit.

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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Perhaps affluent people are involved because they can be. They can afford to travel. They can work out how to hook up and how to get there.

    All kinds of strange reasons are being bruited about on what motivated this twit, Jihadi John. Today I read he ran into a goalpost as a child and his head was never the same.

    Whatever his trigger, in civilized society the strong do not take advantage of the weak. Beheading a defenceless person whose hands are tied isn't really aspirational to anyone rational.

    A few recent terrorist attacks seem targeted at Jewish people, not motivated by Western military action, unless you are so far gone as to blame Jewish people for controlling the entire Western military.

    Is the activity (not just ISIL, Boko Haram etc) not about re-establishing the caliphate? Young, gullible people often like a cause and excitement, although most stay within reason...

    Two things. One, an aim of that religion seems to be to unite the different tribes. From the amount of strife and conflict between different strands of Islam, I don't know if that is being adhered to.

    And, Pakistan/India once was united if torn.. they split that into different ethnic groups, didn't they. Ghandi was appalled, he wanted to keep it together and people to learn to live together. Now, India seems to be having quite a nice time economically and doesn't seem to be involved in much war. Life seems to be improving for people in India. I wonder if the people in Pakistan thought about it, which lifestyle they would prefer to be governed under.

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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's the thing about a religion with 1.4 billion people. You'll always be able to find a few thousand nuts willing to do the craziest things and parade it. The thing is that they didn't really need the religion to do it in the first place. They could have done it as atheists too but the religion gave them something to camouflage their existing psychopathy. Personally, I find it fascinating what people are willing to do with a little encouragement from religion. I'd also like to find out why people who become atheists don't become radicalise to the extent that the religious do. I mean, it's pretty well established through Islam that conversion to a new religion usually comes hand in hand with radicalism so why doesn't it happen with every religion? For that matter why do people who become Buddhist not engage in Buddhist extremism (self-immolation) like Muslims do? Why does Christianity have so many cults that push their members towards doomsday prophecies and self harm (Branch Davidians, Jonestown Massacre, FLDS)? The whole connection between religion and radicalism is super interesting.



    a few thousand? I tend to agree with you, but the problem here is you have 200,000 and an unkown amount sympathetic to the idea of a pan arabic caliphate.
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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    a few thousand? I tend to agree with you, but the problem here is you have 200,000 and an unkown amount sympathetic to the idea of a pan arabic caliphate.
    ?Racist legislation?: British Muslims hit out at new anti-terror laws ? RT UK

    Poll: 27% of UK Muslims Sympathize with Charlie Hebdo, Paris Deli Jihad Murders - Breitbart

    There seems little doubt that the more aggressive Muslims, and of course there are millions of them, have western Europeans on the run.

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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "Islamic Terrorists" falls under the category "terrorist"..
    It helps to be more accurate.






    What?



    "Instead of being drawn from the ranks of the poor, numerous academic and government studies find that terrorists tend to be drawn from well-educated, middle-class or high-income families. Among those who have seriously and impartially studied the issue, there is not much question that poverty has little to do with terrorism. There are many potential explanations for the common misunderstanding that terrorists are motivated to attack us because they are so desperately poor or uneducated that they have nothing to live for, or that they resent the West because it is rich or enjoys certain freedoms. At a theoretical level, economists expect people who have a low opportunity cost of time— that is, a low wage in the legitimate labor market—to turn to crime. But terrorism is different than ordinary property crime." http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8465.pdf



    You folks need to keep your stories straight, I heard it was lack of education, "jobs" et all..


    Question for you, why would seemingly well off people join such a barbaric cause?
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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Because nobody has occupied Europe or North America- if there was a military occupation and armed intervention by foreign powers, you can bet that a lot of people from the West would become terrorists.


    That doesn't really work, see most of islamic terrorist victims, are, other muslims.
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