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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Probably pissed off at the West's military interventions in the Middle East.
    Yes of course THAT explains why sadistic assholes rape and butcher children in India, the Philippines, Pakistan...etc.

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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Oh look! They are collecting themselves in the MW so that we can bomb and destroy them all the easier!
    Much harder to root around our own countries and find them one by one.

    Thanks guys!

    Time to institute carpet bombing large swaths of the ISIS held territory.
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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Your surprised? Most terrorists are middle class, and educated individuals.
    This is odd but true. Some terrorists are actually middle class and have received high education, which I got from a 60 Minutes episode many years ago. Some of them are immigrants but they feel that they are somewhat marginalized so they don't have the same sense of belonging to the society, which leads them to become extremists.
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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by idea_steed View Post
    To revenge for the sake of revenge is not civilized.
    Beheading innocent people isn't civilized in the least either.

    Clearly, these Militant Islamic Fundamentalists pose a grave danger to those around them, as through their spreading, the world at large, both moderate Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

    What more efficient mechanism to reduce their number significantly and therefore their threat? Knock them down hard enough, likely they'll be far less of a recurring problem in the future, given institutional memory.
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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by idea_steed View Post
    This is odd but true. Some terrorists are actually middle class and have received high education, which I got from a 60 Minutes episode many years ago. Some of them are immigrants but they feel that they are somewhat marginalized so they don't have the same sense of belonging to the society, which leads them to become extremists.
    ....and raping eight-year-olds, burning people alive in cages, and beheading people on youtube.

    Sorry, but "marginalization" doesn't lead to such things.

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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Your surprised? Most terrorists are middle class, and educated individuals.


    They are? you also forgot "and islamic".


    You guys need to make up your mind, it was jobs, poverty, now it's education an middle class?
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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Probably pissed off at the West's military interventions in the Middle East.

    So are most liberals. Why haven't they joined Jihad?
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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    They are? you also forgot "and islamic".
    "Islamic Terrorists" falls under the category "terrorist"..


    You guys need to make up your mind, it was jobs, poverty, now it's education an middle class?
    What?



    "Instead of being drawn from the ranks of the poor, numerous academic and government studies find that terrorists tend to be drawn from well-educated, middle-class or high-income families. Among those who have seriously and impartially studied the issue, there is not much question that poverty has little to do with terrorism. There are many potential explanations for the common misunderstanding that terrorists are motivated to attack us because they are so desperately poor or uneducated that they have nothing to live for, or that they resent the West because it is rich or enjoys certain freedoms. At a theoretical level, economists expect people who have a low opportunity cost of time— that is, a low wage in the legitimate labor market—to turn to crime. But terrorism is different than ordinary property crime." http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8465.pdf


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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "Islamic Terrorists" falls under the category "terrorist"..




    What?



    "Instead of being drawn from the ranks of the poor, numerous academic and government studies find that terrorists tend to be drawn from well-educated, middle-class or high-income families. Among those who have seriously and impartially studied the issue, there is not much question that poverty has little to do with terrorism. There are many potential explanations for the common misunderstanding that terrorists are motivated to attack us because they are so desperately poor or uneducated that they have nothing to live for, or that they resent the West because it is rich or enjoys certain freedoms. At a theoretical level, economists expect people who have a low opportunity cost of time— that is, a low wage in the legitimate labor market—to turn to crime. But terrorism is different than ordinary property crime." http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8465.pdf



    Ahh, so we can't say islamic terrorism is something that comes from uneducated being indoctrinated, but seemingly coming from a seemingly "moderate" well educated types.
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    Re: ‘Jihadi John’: Islamic State killer is identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    honest answer: I have suspected for a very long time that there is a deep current of bitter resentment among some in the Muslim community for the reason that they were once among the leading and most civilized people in the world and are now pretty much near the bottom of anybody outside of Africa despite sitting atop those rich oil reserves. One only needs to look at the comparative civilizations of Europe and the Middle East during the Crusades to see how far advanced the arabs were compared to many Europeans who were living in almost animalistic conditions.

    I suspect they feel that they once were on top of the heap and now they are on the bottom and it just angers them to no end and causes a huge disconnect and they for somebody to blame. And who better than the new top dog they have to look up at.

    thats just my two cents based on nothing but my own observations and suspicions.
    VS Naipaul, who won the Nobel Prize in literature, had exactly the same insight about Muslims. He said, "There is a passage in one of the Conrad short stories of the East Indies where the savage finds himself with his hands bare in the world, and he lets out a howl of anger. I think that, in its essence, is what is happening. The world is getting more and more out of reach of simple people who have only religion. And the more they depend on religion, which of course solves nothing, the more the world gets out of reach. The oil money in the 70's gave the illusion that power had come to the Islamic world. It was as though up there was a divine supermarket, and at last it had become open to people in the Muslim world. They didn't understand that the goods that gave them power in the end were made by another civilization. That was intolerable to accept, and it remains intolerable."

    "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." --HL Mencken

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